Maggie Haberman on Giuliani Saying He Has ‘No Cash’: He Is a Grown Man; Has Always Been Conspiracy Minded

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Giuliani: “The reality is, I have no cash. It’s all tied up. So, right now, if I wanted to call a taxicab, I can’t do it. I don’t have a credit card. I don’t have a checking account. I have no place I can go take cash out, except the little bit that I saved. And it’s getting down to almost nothing.”
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HUNT: “This is the man who was the mayor of New York City in the wake of September 11th. And now there were reports his refrigerator in his Miami condo was repossessed in this court case that he’s — he’s dealing with. And it’s all because of his association with Donald Trump.”
HABERMAN: “Well, to a point, Kasie. I mean, you know, I covered Rudy Giuliani in his second term. I covered most of that term when I was working for ‘The New York Post.’ And he would — at city hall. And he was, you know, a very different - in some ways very different than what you’re seeing here. In some ways not. There are aspects of this version of Rudy Giuliani that have always existed. You know, he did what was a widely praised job leading the city right after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, which was a terrifying time in this city. He has always been conspiracy minded. He has always had an openness to power and to access to power. So, yes, on the one hand, it’s Donald Trump. On the other hand, I don’t know that anybody forced Rudy Giuliani to go do the things for which he was found to have defamed two women who people — no one had ever heard of before until he started throwing their names around. And so, you know, yes, there are a lot of people who like Rudy Giuliani, who hear him say things like that and they feel very bad. What’s always missing, and it’s understandable, he’s almost 80 - you know, an 80 year old man, or however old he is now, but it’s also — there’s never any sense of, you know, how he got into this position, which are actions he took himself. And so, yes, it was in the service of Donald Trump,, but he — these were — he — he had agency here and he is a grown man.”
HUNT: “He is a grown man. I very much appreciate that assessment. Maggie Haberman, very grateful to have you. Thank you very much.”