93. Hector Carvallo, "Go EFF YOURSELF!"

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93. Hector Carvallo, F@CK OFF
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Dr. Hector Carvallo: [00:00:00] when I lost my temper, I asked if he was really the private secretary of the health minister. He insisted that he was, and I told him, so please tell the health minister to go fuck himself. And that was the end of it. Sometimes I lose my temper mainly when the people's lives are in jeopardy..

Nurse Kelly: Welcome to After hours with Dr. Sigoloff, where he can share ideas and thoughts with you. He gets to the heart of the issue, so that you can find the truth. The views and opinions expressed are his, and do not represent the U. S. Army, DOD, nor the U. S. government. Dr. Sigoloff was either off duty, or on approved leave, and Dr. Sigoloff was not in uniform at the time of recording. Now, to Dr. Sigoloff.

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Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I want to thank everyone so much for being able to support and help me out here. And I want to also thank all the all the gives and goes. Supporters have been instrumental in this as this is helping keep the fight going. Let me get to our guest. Dr. Hector Cavallo is a physician. I also met him when I was at the [00:02:00] FLCCC conference in Fort Worth.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Texas, but he recently wrote an article talking about the symbols and symbology, specifically the rod of Asclepius and the caduceus and the difference and what they actually mean.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yes. Hello. Hello, Sam. How are you? It's a pleasure to see you again. The fact is I wrote something that has a company medical activity.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Through the centuries, because sometimes these two symbols are taken for the same thing while they are absolutely different. The first one is the Caduceus of Asclepius that is composed of it has only one snake. And the other one is the Caduceus of Hermes that has two snakes. The first one is the symbol of medicine.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And the second one is the symbol of a god that [00:03:00] protected merchants. lawyers, and thieves. Okay, I'm just repeating history. I'm not giving my personal opinion. You can quote it because that's the real thing. And sometimes the doctors have forgotten follow the Asclepius.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: condition rod, let's say, and they are inclined to the other rod, to the Hermes rod. And what do I mean with this? That for instance, during the pandemic, many doctors preferred to get big profits instead of curing or trying [00:04:00] to help their patients. Doctors have stolen the people's future, the people's health, the people's expectations in life.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: They have stolen, have deprived people from their... Beloved ones, and I think that the gross majority, it's sad to say that, but the gross majority of medical doctors have worked according to the Hermes rot, instead of the Asclepius.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It's amazing how this symbology is so old, it goes back so far, and most of the people in the world don't understand it. For instance, my, my podcast symbol it's a door, it's a doctor's door, and it has the write [00:05:00] of Asclepius on it. And, I've had lots of people say, oh, you should look into that's the, and they think that it's the...

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: The Rod of Hermes and they couldn't be more wrong, and so they're putting all these negative things onto me and what I'm doing, not understanding that it actually is also from the Bible.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: When... Sorry, excuse me, maybe they understand it. And they prefer it.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: But it's also, we see the symbol in the Bible when the Jews were out in the desert and they were plagued by snakes and God told Moses to put a bronze snake on a staff and raise it up and anyone that was bit with that snake would be bit by a snake and then looks upon the staff that you put up with the bronze snake on it and looked upon it would be healed if they believed that God would heal them.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And it seems like that's where the origins of the medical symbol, the true medical symbol comes from.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: The fact is that [00:06:00] the asus rod comes from a legend in which Asus was ob had to assist a giant friend Albu, who had been beaten by a snake, and he killed the snake with his rod and from the snake he obtained. The medicine, so to say, in order to save Aldo's life.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: That's why the symbol of medicine is both a rod and a snake.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: That's interesting. It's the ability to strike and also take the poison and heal, use it to heal.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Talking of poisons, sometimes it doesn't work.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: True. Yes. We as doctors have many poisons that don't work. And not specifically you and me, but there are many doctors in the world right now who are giving poison saying that it's not poison.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yes. [00:07:00] Let's take for instance the vaccines. I've always been pro vaccines, provided they are real vaccines.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: When it's just an experiment, I have to be cautious. And when the experiment, proves not to work. I'm against it. Let's take, for instance, an example with the polio, poliomyelitis. There were Everybody knows two different vaccines against polio. The saving one and the salt one.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: The saving one is the one that is given orally. One drop. That's it. And the Salk 1 is inject, is injected. The difference between the two of them is the cost. And besides, the Salk 1 doesn't prevent people from carry from carrying the poliovirus in their [00:08:00] Intestine. It doesn't prevent asymptomatic carriers.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But there was another vaccine. The caster vaccine, sorry, the cutter vaccine that was to tried first before the other two ones, and it was accepted during the polio. epidemic in the United States without being tested, and it provoked so many damages, so many side effects, so many cases that were not that could not be repaired, but it had to be taken away from the market.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: That's what happens when things are done without proper testing. And I understand that the phases that you have to pass in [00:09:00] order to get a good medicine cannot be shortened. If you try to shorten them, you'll commit a mistake. And if you avoid the phases, you are committing a crime. Because the results you will obtain will be biased will not be valid.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Okay. And I was saying that because of the vaccines now they have, they are pushing a vaccine. Big Pharma is pushing a vaccine against herpes because they say that herpes is a It's terrible. It's very dangerous. It's very harmful, which is true. It's simple. And people over 60 years, for instance, me should be vaccinated.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: What they don't say is that there is a treatment for her. There has [00:10:00] been a treatment for the first case and the second case and the relapse of her for over 30 years, 40 years, and that it works. And besides the vaccine, has not been properly tested. So they are making a lot of propaganda, for instance, here in Argentina, on the TB in order to recruit patients.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But they don't say that it is a real study. They just allowed people to think that this is the real thing when it's not. Okay. And the same thing happened with a vaccine for dengue. The vaccine against dengue, or supposedly against dengue, was created in the United States by [00:11:00] American pharmacological companies.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But it wasn't tested there. It was tested in the Philippines on children. That's awful. And after a couple of using it... Over 200 children died and the vaccine had to be stopped, vaccination had to be stopped, vaccine had to be taken away from the pharmacopoeia, and there is still a big trial against the manufacturers.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Those things can be easily found not so easily. You have to look for them. Because Big Pharma and Big Media have been working together very closely. And when you enter Google, for instance, you won't find this as the first result. We have to keep digging and digging in order to find it.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And [00:12:00] sometimes it's not easy to find it. Because I, Misinformation is flooding, flooding the whole media. When misinformation, I mean that they have changed news and publicity for propaganda. And propaganda is deceptive, okay? Propaganda is tending to, to show something which is not true.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: When you are replacing news for propaganda. You are misinforming people.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And that might even go into the realm of disinformation, where it's intentional.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yes, it's intentional. It's disinformation. Yes, you're right. Misinformation may be not unproposed, [00:13:00] but disinformation is unproposed. It's deliberate.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And I don't know if you're familiar, there's this idea, this project done by, I believe it was the CIA, and it has allegedly stopped, although I have my suspicions, and many people have their suspicions, but it's called Project Mockingbird, and in Project Mockingbird, this came out during the Church Commission in the 1970s, and the Project Mockingbird was where the CIA hired Project Mockingbird.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And paid reporters to report what they wanted to report.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Okay. Yes. I am sure sometime I heard about the Muckingbird project. At the beginning, I thought it was an urban legend, but when time, as time goes by. You find out that those legends are no legends at all. They are true.[00:14:00] When a person is found guilty by media, it doesn't matter if he is found guilty by a judge, because he is already dead.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: When... Television says that this guy is guilty of this, guilty of that. You cannot change that. Do you remember the chapter, the the chapter in which Homer Simpson was supposed to be molesting? a babysitter. I don't remember that episode. You should watch it. He was found he was chased by the media because somebody said he had molested.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: The his children's babysitter and it doesn't, it didn't matter how much he tried. He all, he was found more guilty and more [00:15:00] guilty by media. At the end, of course, the whole truth came to surface, but it was described in the scroll that passes. Very quickly, and nobody could see it, and nobody could watch it.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But that's a good, I think Matt Groening, the creator of The Simpsons, has foreseen many things that happened after. He's the nowadays, Jules Berner. Nowadays, Jules Jules Berner. And these things happen all the time. And for instance I am interviewed by you, but I I think I would never be interviewed by CNN.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Maybe I could be interviewed by Cook Times, or maybe I could be interviewed by Fox, but not by CNN. Because they don't want people to listen what I have to [00:16:00] say. And besides, many people prefer keep being keep being live. Thank you.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Instead of recognizing, keep being cheated, instead of recognizing or conceding that they have been cheated. It's a mechanism of defense. Yeah. And many people think that whatever, whichever thing appears on TV or in

Dr. Hector Carvallo: the newspapers and now in the social media has to be true and it is not, it depends on the power of the one who throws the information. To the media.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Now, sir, I remember you saying when I heard you speak at FLCC, [00:17:00] you talked about what you did in your country and your fight against this whole COVID shot issue. Can you tell the listeners and the viewers what heroic things you've done in that field?

Dr. Hector Carvallo: From the very first day we did something against COVID by a virus we started working with ivermectin, that it's not, it was not a matter of an epiphany that from all the repurposed drugs we decided to to use ivermectin, we we were following ivermectin because it had already proved to work successfully against dengue fever.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And which is endemic in Argentina and other Arbovirus Zika, Chikungunya and Malaria. That's why I was... I called, yes, it works. But this is not new. It has been described 10 years [00:18:00] ago. 10 years ago. Long before the pandemic, that's why I sent a message to, to to our colleague, Joel Adapo from Florida, because I learned there was an outbreak of malaria there, and I said, you may use ivermectin, because it's used, it's it works.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Either for prophylaxis or for treatment

Dr. Hector Carvallo: because hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine works for treatment, but not for prophylaxis. That ivermectin and decides hydroxychloroquine, which proved to be very good very effective against covid has a very small range of of dose. So the therapeutic dose. And the toxic those are very close to one another.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: In the case of Avermectin the, beach. between these two doses [00:19:00] is so wide, you will have no problem in using it. And that's why we were working and starting studies, clinical studies on ivermectin when the pandemic started. The same happened in Australia. Dr. Keeley, Dr. Wastaf, from the Monash University at Melbourne, They were originally working with ivermectin against dengue fever, not against COVID, because COVID didn't exist.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: So they switched their, the focus of their study from one to another when the pandemic started. And we did. So did we. So did us. The fact is we made different studies, both for prophylaxis. When I say we, Professor Hughes. Who has been an infectologists for half a century, 50 years.[00:20:00]

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And he's still the chief of the Department of Infectious Diseases in the, at the hospital, which is only dedicated to infectious diseases in Argentina. And so he's one of the best infectologists in South America. And we made two studies, which we. Submitted to the National Library of Medicine in the United States.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: One for prophylaxis and one for treatment. And they both worked okay at a hospital. At two different hospitals. His hospital and my hospital. All the hospitals I worked for because I am already retired. The problem is that after... Submitting the results, the first results in the world proving that ivermectin was useful either for prophylaxis or for treatment.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: I received We have all the ethical [00:21:00] acceptance from the hospital, from the county, whatever. I received a phone call from the health minister's private secretary. saying that I couldn't keep working on these studies. I said the studies are already finished. They have already been submitted to the National Library of Medicine.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And they have been, they have also been published. So he said that if I continued publishing the studies, I would lose my job. I had to tell him that... I couldn't lose my job because I was retired. I was working in the scientific area, just pro bono. And then he kept on threatening me, so I lost my temper and I said some things which I'm not proud of.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But I, that was the end of the conversation.[00:22:00]

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I can't blame you for getting a little upset. I probably would have said some choice words as well.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Sorry?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I probably would say some colorful words as well.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: May I?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Sure.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: When I lost my temper, I told him, I asked him if he was really the private secretary of the health minister. So he insisted that he was, and I told him, so please tell the health minister to go fuck himself. And that was the end of it.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Sometimes I lose my temper, mainly when the people's lives are in jeopardy.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And [00:23:00] that's the truth, and the reality of the situation is it's not just you getting angry with them it's an entire system trying to prevent life saving medications from getting to patients that absolutely need them, that we know work.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And that's what we've been battling against. And if you're preventing a life saving medication from getting to a patient who's ill, the only word that I have to describe that is evil.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And the action itself is a crime, but the fact is they couldn't accept the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, or hydroxychloroquine. Colchicine, or Doxycycline, or Vitamin D, or Acetramicin. Because if they did the permission to use the vaccines, which was not a full permission was a urgency permission.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And they have billions and billions of reasons not to allow that [00:24:00] they were getting paid off,

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But they say it without any embarrassment. Every day you say you see that big pharma gives 10 million, 20 million, 100 million to the F D A or the c d c to make this investigation, to make that investigation take. Don't make investigations. They don't make investigations.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: They don't make studies. They have already accepted. They have never made studies. They just accept or not accept pharmacological studies. And they don't perform studies by themselves. And they have been if it was not so dramatic, it would be funny. They first said, and I'm talking about Fauci, Walensky, and [00:25:00] all the whole gang.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And they said, If you receive the shots, you won't get ill, and you won't transmit the illness. Then they changed the, their speech and they said you may contract the virus, but you won't transmit it. Then they changed it again. He said you may contract the virus and transmit it, but you will not suffer severe cases.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Later on severe cases have been seen in the patients already vaccinated, but they don't go to the intensive care unit and they don't die. And finally, they had to concede that they did die. So what's the next step? They will say, but they will go to heaven. I don't know what we'll say next. It's ridiculous.[00:26:00]

Dr. Hector Carvallo: I actually spoke to a mother of an infant who was breastfeeding, and she was a service member, and she got the shot. And this was when I was still working. And the mother was in the intensive care unit, and the father was trying to find out if he could give the breast milk of the mother to their infant.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And this was one week after the first shot. And this is a health, this is a service member. So you can assume that they're generally fairly healthy.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But the fact is let's see it from the very beginning. Let's take an example on a small, very small state. Maine, for instance. Maine State on the East Coast. If I enter any hospital or clinic with a fracture, They would charge my [00:27:00] insurance. 7, 000. If I enter with a fracture with a bone fracture, but I tested positive for Kobe, it would charge my insurance 20, 000.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And if I finally, and if I find that is three times more, and if I finally went to the intensive care unit, they would charge almost 125, 000 if I tested positive. These things that I'm saying are facts. You can enter the internet and see how much a clinic or a hospital is paid for this kind of patient, that kind of patient, and you will find it.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And, after the vaccination, they couldn't say that there were side effects. [00:28:00] They said that the side effects were provoked by the British vaccines. So the British said, no, but the American vaccines are worse. So it was we were returning to the independence war. And the fact is that all the effects that were provoked.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: All the effects that were provoked had to be disregarded and considered that have no connection at all with the vaccines. So that's against logical thinking. If I receive a medicine, whichever medicine, that I have never received before and I have undesired effects. in a few days after taking it.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: What else can I blame? If I die a week after receiving a vaccine, [00:29:00] unless I've been shot down by a killer or I've been run over by a car, the first thing you have to think of is What medicine you received a few days before, that's simple thinking, that's rational, that's logical. But these times, in these last three and almost four years, logic has not been part of the equation.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: No, and media has been used to convince the layperson that, oh, if you don't have a randomized, controlled study, that it's not good science, and that's not how science works. When you're starting to develop an idea, and you want to see if... Or look for a danger signal. You can't have a randomized controlled study cause you don't have time for that.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: You have to act instantly on any danger signal.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And besides when they say that if [00:30:00] they are not randomized, et cetera, they are not a hundred percent scientific. They are forgetting of. Studies, the pyramid of evidence, the lower step is expert's opinion. Then you have clinical studies, which is higher.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Then you have randomized studies, and then you have meta analysis. And they used the lowest step to criticize higher steps. That's crazy. They're using the lower steps. Because clinical studies are always preferable to experts opinion. And besides, who could be an expert on COVID in 2020?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: When they're using the [00:31:00] lower steps to negate the higher steps, which don't exist, which does not mean that there is no evidence. It means they haven't done the studies.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: So they have put the parameter upside down.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And it's that flipping of the, of how science works and how information works has led to millions of people dying.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yes. And they will keep dying because of this because up till now we have seen the immediate side effects that the l the effects the adverse effects in the long range, they are just now showing up.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: The chronic covid is not only provoked by covid itself by B, but also by covid vaccines. And those cases are indistinguishable from [00:32:00] one another. And rheumatological issues appear without any familiar history of rheumatoid diseases. After the shots sudden death appears the excess of mortality has gone sky high, and they try to explain it by the sudden adult death syndrome, which already exists, but not in these figures, so I call it suddenly Maybe Invented sudden adult death syndrome. So instead of SADS, I call it CSADS. Suddenly invented. Because, though the syndrome has been described for quite a long time, it's not the same to have one in [00:33:00] one thousand, it's not the same of having one in one hundred.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: So the explanation is there. And I've been a medical doctor for 42 years, almost 43 years, and very shortly after graduating, I found out that the studies, most of the scientific studies, or the results of the studies, depended entirely on the on the money that was put on the studies.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: on the financial support of the studies. And so I started Not disregarding, but not accepting any study as a biblical truth. And I try to confront [00:34:00] one study with another and to find out The real thing about them and most important, I never accepted my patients to be guinea pigs for any study. Never.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: You could see this phenomena prior to COVID with the statins, how statins were, the greatest thing and they should be put in the water and everybody needs a statin. And then when you really look at the evidence, statins only help maybe a tiny bit.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But the fact is. It's always a matter of money.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: They create big studies. Most of them are fake. Then they put up a congress, an international congress, with very famous speakers. They invite you. [00:35:00] You don't have to pay for the inscription or the hotel, nothing. You go there, you eat, you drink, you listen. And you get out thinking that you have heard an epiphany and you start using the medicine and you become the employee of Big Pharma without receiving any salary, but sometimes people, doctors receive salaries.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But the fact from Big Pharma, though they will never accept, they will never concede that this is also a tragic fact. But you are combined because you spend a wonderful time there and you start prescribing things that in the long range are found to be not so useful or absolutely [00:36:00] useless.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And besides, when I was very young doctor, when I graduated cholesterol levels, the accepted healthy cholesterol limit was 250 milligrams. And then all of a sudden it was changed to 200 milligrams. So everybody needed medicine

Dr. Hector Carvallo: just by lowering the limit.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: If you lose, if you reduce, if you lower the upper limit. Most people will be beyond the limit, and so they will need the medicine.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: That's [00:37:00] crazy. And I'm telling things that happened 40 years ago, and I'm sure that it happened even before I was not a doctor then.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And as they lower the acceptable cholesterol level, and people get more of these medications to help lower their cholesterol, and we see more heart attacks and strokes, we're clearly doing something wrong.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yeah, and by accepting these things are as the truth. With capital letters, we can see that most doctors cannot think by themselves, they just follow propaganda. Some doctors think that they are updated by watching Twitter that's not a means of [00:38:00] being trained, but they do that. That's a reality.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Very shameful, but a reality.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Now, if I remember correctly, your fight didn't end with you hanging up on, on that personal assistant, did it?

Dr. Hector Carvallo: The fight will never end because I sued the government for preventing me to keep on doing any further research. And the trial is being put off three times up till now, so they expect me to get tired and to desist, to follow it.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But I can wait. I can wait. I'm retired. I don't have anything else to do, so I can [00:39:00] wait. And I keep going everywhere and accepting invitations like yours. In order to explain what we have done, we didn't discover the gunpowder, powder, gunpowder. We didn't discover it. We just used repurposed drugs.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: We did something. Because the worst thing you can do with a suffering patient is to do nothing. Is to do nothing. Because that's negligence. There is person abandonment, you have to do something. Leaving a person at home with a diagnosis of illness and Wait until he cannot breathe properly in order to refer him to the hospital.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: That's [00:40:00] patient abandonment anywhere in the world. Before the pandemic, if you did that with any other disease, you will be sued. And why not now?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And in fact, I did an interview a while back before I was doing... videos with the man. His name is Dean and he was admitted in Arizona. He was had COVID and they scheduled narcotics and that's like something you learn first day of med school. You never schedule narcotics. They would wake him up in the middle of the night every four hours to give him more morphine.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It's he's got a breathing problem and you're waking him up to give him more morphine. He's not in pain and you're still giving it. They almost intubated him in his Private room and luckily he had a an angel watching over him and who was the physical or the respiratory therapist Who [00:41:00] ran the man out who had the vent and he was discharged the next day They turn a regular room into an icu room when they put someone on a vent in a regular room, which is completely inappropriate

Dr. Hector Carvallo: So these things like that Have been seen I've been with NEST during this pandemic. We have seen things like that before, but not all together, like in this past three years. So it's a scandal. It's a scandal. In a French book by a French author, which is called The Pest by Alder Camus in one part of the, this book The Pest is about cholera in Africa.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And he says that The worst thing about the pest, the plague, that's the title in English, the plague. It's not that it [00:42:00] kills bodies, but it makes the souls, and that is a really horrible spectacle when you see people's souls, and that they are doing things wrong on purpose, maybe out of cower, cowardship, cowardness, or corruption.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Those are unacceptable. Words in the medical life, in the medical profession, yet we have seen plenty of them during these last three years. So I can tell you, I've always loved medicine, but I'm really disappointed with medical doctors and in the way they have behaved. And though I have one son who is a medical [00:43:00] doctor, and they are in the health system If they were to apply for the university now, I would try to combine them to follow any other career except medicine, because it's so corrupt that sometimes I feel ashamed of being a medical doctor.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I will encourage my children to not join the military and not go into traditional medicine.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Or at least if they do want to be, to become medical doctors. Not to believe in everything they are told, to get their own experience. Not to behave as employees of Big Pharma. To find their own way. Because the truth will find it, will eventually [00:44:00] find its way. What worries me is all the people that die in between.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And there's a quote from Rudyard Kipling. It's from the Gods of the Copybook. And it's with terror and something, the Gods of the Copybook return, which is basically truth returning back to society with terror. Because it, when people realize the truth it comes back like a lion. It doesn't need you or me to fight for the truth.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It is found.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yeah. Rudyard Kipling was a real wise man. Very wise. And this pandemic, the behavior, the general behavior in this pandemic has been a mixture, [00:45:00] a perfect combination between Joseph Mengele and Joseph Goebbels. The first one committing atrocities. In the name of science, and the second one combines in everybody that everything was okay.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: You're absolutely right. This is if Mengele could only dream of what we've done today, he would be delighted. This is so much worse on a such grander scale that he could ever even imagine.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: I think that not in his Worst twisted dreams he could imagine of such a thing as what we have witnessed, what we are witnessing in our days and that's crazy. [00:46:00]

Dr. Hector Carvallo: That's crazy. And people who are responsible of this slaughtering, they walk easily, without any problem. They are not sent to jail. The figures are so high. This could be easily consider genocide and anyone committing a genocidal action, either by omission or by action because a genocide may be committed either by omission or by action anyone committing it cannot walk, cannot go away without being punished.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: These people, for instance, Fauci has retired as a hero.[00:47:00]

Dr. Hector Carvallo: And nobody says anything about it. Walensky keeps talking to herself, because just, I think nobody believes her, but she keeps talking. Hottis, the one with the red

Dr. Hector Carvallo: necktie he keeps talking in favor of vaccines. The other day he discussed with Robert Kennedy, but he didn't accept to discuss with Robert Kennedy Jr. Because though Robert Kennedy is a lawyer, not a medical doctor, and Hottis is a scientist. in medical science. He has nothing to answer to Kennedy.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: I've heard, I've been with Kennedy at Knoxville, Tennessee, a year ago, and [00:48:00] he's so well prepared to defeat anyone on the medical field. That is amazing. That's why Hortense didn't accept it, because he's a liar and he's a chicken.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And the truth will come out and he'll know that. People will know that he's a tyrant bent on destruction.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But tyrants exert their tyranny, over those who do nothing.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: You maybe you remember Muammar Gaddafi from Libya. He was a tyrant. He even bombed flying planes, but when his [00:49:00] period was over and people took over the palace, he begged for his life as if he was a child. So tyrants exert tyranny only if they are allowed to.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Same with Saddam, he was found in a hole.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yeah, he was inside a hole, yeah. Like an ostrich, but better. Because he didn't leave the body outside.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It takes brave men and women like, like you and other guests that I've had on to, to make the tyranny stop. To show these tyrants that we won't, we actually won't forget. We say we won't forget, but we really also won't forget. And we'll make sure that justice is equally doled out to people who deserve it.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Not some vigilante justice, but going before [00:50:00] trials and judgments given.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: It's a very asymmetrical fight, quite asymmetrical https: otter. ai Flight fight. But, I agree with you. We must not forget, and we must not forgive.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I'm willing to forgive after judgment is doled, and let God sort him out. Sorry? I'm willing to forgive, but after they've received judgment and punishment, and then after God sorted him out, then I'm willing to forgive.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Maybe the older you become, the less inclined to forgive we become.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: But I may forgive what people have done to me, but I may not forgive a genocide. [00:51:00] I cannot forgive that. It's unforgivable. Of course, we cannot apply the Talion's Law.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Justice should be done, justice should be, the hand of justice should reach the people who are responsible of this genocide and make them pay within the field of law, not outside the law, because otherwise we will Become like cavern people, but we'll be just like that. We have a law. We have a law. The law is blind.[00:52:00]

Dr. Hector Carvallo: The judges are not blind. They shouldn't be either blind or deaf or dumb. They should. They should apply the law. And the attorneys should apply the law. Long ago, I have said, about two and a half years ago, that it's no longer the time for medical doctors. It's the time for lawyers. It's the time for attorneys.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: We have to... We have to pursue everybody who is responsible of all that has been done, either by omission or by action, I insist. And they have to pay. They have to pay to the society.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: That's the only thing, anyone committing a crime is up to the consequences.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Why not, why these people aren't? I don't know.[00:53:00]

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And there's, there's two safe havens that I know of from, let's say the Nazis, through Operation Paperclip, many of them came to America. And they continued their operations. And also Argentina. So we do have that connection there. In that sense that, the thing that I don't want to happen to these people is for them to be able to escape to a country like America or Argentina and make their own little pockets of, like they did, where they continue doing the same things that they were doing.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I don't want them to be able to go to, whatever country or whatever, government and hide inside the government. They need to be brought to justice.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Yeah, They can run, but they shouldn't

Dr. Hector Carvallo: hide. They shouldn't be able To hide. Of course they can run. They are running. To a certain extent. But, [00:54:00] they shouldn't be able to hide.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Sir, I want to be respectful of your time. We've hit the hour mark. And I truly appreciate you coming on with me.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: We are in time. You told me one hour. And it's... Almost an hour. So I appreciate that.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Thank you, sir. Thank you for all you're doing. Thank you for keeping the fight up in your country and the listeners and the viewers will continue the fight here.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: We'll be praying for you.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: Okay, and thanks to you for giving me the opportunity of making the fight public. Okay.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And international.

Dr. Hector Carvallo: That's it.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Thank you. God bless.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: God bless

Dr. Hector Carvallo: you too. Bye bye.[00:55:00]

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Just a reminder for everyone out there, in duty uniform of the day, The full armor of God. Let's all make courage more contagious than fear.

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