Proof that Reintegrative Therapy Is Safe and Effective: Nicolosi and Pela Interview

If you watch just one video of mine, make it this one! This is my first time conducting an interview for my channel, and I’m thrilled that it is with Joseph Nicolosi, Jr, and Carolyn Pela to discuss the Pela & Sutton (2021) study that showed how Reintegrative Therapy is safe and effective for sexual attraction fluidity exploration. And the timing is perfect for this interview, because with Bill C-4 and other bans for counseling for unwanted same-sex attraction, and with YouTube banning Nicolosi’s Reintegrative Therapy Association channel, the attacks against our work and the client’s right to therapeutic choice are ramping up.

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Reference for Dr. Pela’s study and how to access it:
Pela, Carolyn, & Sutton, Phil. (2021). Sexual attraction fluidity and well-being in men: A therapeutic outcome study. Journal of Human Sexuality, 12, 61-86. https://www.journalofhumansexuality.com/_files/ugd/ec16e9_d6b14c067ae64bf095bb19c4757e8ff9.pdf

Timestamps:
00:00:33 Introductions
00:05:24 Defining terms (“Conversion therapy” 00:05:42, SOCE 00:07:22, SAFE-T 00:07:49, Reparative Therapy 00:10:10, Reintegrative Therapy 00:11:45)
00:14:22 Dr. Nicolosi being banned
00:20:24 Common attacks against SAFE-T (harm, ineffectiveness) and prior research on SOCE/SAFE-T
00:27:26 The background of Dr. Pela’s plan to study risks and benefits of SAFE-T
00:29:50 The measurements used
00:32:57 The research sample and participant motivations
00:37:23 The quasi-experimental research design used
00:40:04 The loss of Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, Sr. during the study
00:42:22 The risks of harm or no benefit in therapy for other general issues
00:46:18 The factors that support beneficial outcomes in therapy in general
00:49:38 The results of Reintegrative Therapy on well-being
00:54:25 The results of Reintegrative Therapy on sexuality
00:58:06 Length of treatment
00:59:59 Accusations of shaming, authoritarian opposition to research on SAFE-T
01:05:08 Peer review and getting the study published
01:12:42 How people and policymakers should use this data
01:15:52 Closing remarks

Various studies mentioned:
APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation. (2009). Report of the Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association.
Berk, M., & Parker, G. (2009). The elephant on the couch: Side-effects of
psychotherapy. Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry, 43(78), 787-794. (Shows that 3-10% of clients for therapy in general experience deterioration.)
Blosnich, J.R., Henderson, E.R., Coulter, R.W.S., Goldbach, J.T., & Meyer, I.H. (2020). Sexual orientation change efforts, adverse childhood experiences, and suicide ideation and attempt among sexual minority adults, United States, 2016-2018. American Journal of Public Health, 110(7), 1024-1030. (This study erroneously claimed that SAFE-T causes suicidality. Further analysis of the raw data shows the opposite.)
Israel, T., Gorcheva, R., Burnes, T.R., & Walther, W.A. (2008). Helpful and unhelpful therapy experiences of LGBT clients. Psychotherapy Research, 18(3), 294-305. (This study showed that 25% of poor results in therapy are associated with lack of support for client self-determination.)
Kraus, D.R., Bentley, J.H., Alexander, P.C., Boswell, J.F., Constantino, M.J., Baxter, E.E., & Castonguay, L.G. (2016). Therapist effectiveness from their own practice-based evidence. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 84(6), 473-483. (This study showed that 45% of depression clients receive no benefit.)
Shidlo, A., & Schroeder, M. (2002). Changing sexual orientation: A consumer’s report. Professional Psychology: Research and Practice, 33(3), 249-259.
Spitzer, R.L. (2003). Can some gay men and lesbians change their sexual orientation? 200 participants reporting a change from homosexual to heterosexual orientation. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 32, 403-417.
Sullins, D.P. (2021). Sexual orientation change efforts (SOCE) *reduce* suicide: Correcting a false research narrative. Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=3729353
Tolman, D., & Diamond, L. (Eds.) (2014). APA Handbook of Sexuality and Psychology (2 volumes). Washington, DC: American Psychological Association.

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