2015-12-31 □ Times of Gentiles Or Great Multitude Joel 2 Army

Q: Hi I have a question so is the 144k not who the Bible say they are I mean the Bible say they are from each tribe is they not from each tribe I don't believe I remember seeing in the Bible where he called Gentiles by the 12 tribes name so I guess that's why I'm a little confused and I'm not quite sure why everyone is so quick to dismiss the 12 tribes after all they were scattered they didn't all die so God being God I would think he will reveal them at the end
A: As long as you believe in Jew vs Gentile you will not understand the 144,000. There are no Jews according to the flesh, even if there were there is no spiritual benefit in the flesh. See Philippians 3. The Israeli's are close mostly they're Europeans.
Abrahams Seed is by faith in Jesus Christ, His followers are the 12 Tribes not those that have rejected Him.
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes.
God declares the end from the beginning, the end is New Jerusalem is 12 Apostles, 12 Foundations and 12 Tribes on a Wall of 144 Cubits.
Which came first?
Heb 11 Abraham looked for a City with (12)Foundations who's builder and Maker was God.
New Jerusalem, the Mystery of God from the Foundations of this World.
C: Would be interested in getting a summary of this teaching. I think what I was getting out of it was the concept of the times of the Gentiles representing the time of the great multitude that no one can count rather - more of a positive concept than the traditional negative concept...but I had a hard time fully understanding. I understood how you compared the word "gentiles" to ethnos...but I am foggy on what this means for prophecy in terms of the end times. I hope that makes sense - just looking for a summary of the main idea.
R: Yeah. So I'm never sure how much of the messages people have a chance to listen to. Basically, I've come to understand that the last days believers are part of one of 2 groups, 144k and the great multitude. So, after this understanding, yes, there are great rewards for all, it's not all doom and gloom. Nor is it you're raptured out with no problems.
For more on this topic, check out the playlist 144k
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