RFK Jr. Recounts the Time He Caught Dr. Paul Offit in a Lie About Childhood Vaccines - Rogan

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"I called Kathleen Stratton at the National Academy of Sciences, who was the chief staffer, and I was asking her about these studies. And I realized during these conversations that none of these people had read any of the science. They were just repeating things that they had been told about the science. And then and they kept saying to me, well, I can't answer that detailed question. You need to talk to Paul Offit."

"Well, Paul Offit is a vaccine developer who made a $186 million deal with Merck on the rotavirus vaccine. And it would be it was odd to me that government regulators were saying you should talk to somebody in the industry. It's like if I you know, I used to talk to EPA people all the time asking what did what does this provision mean in the permit? Why did you put it in there? And if they said to me, I don't know."

"Why don't you go talk to the coal industry or this lobbyist for the coal industry, and he will tell you what we're doing? I would have been very, you know, puzzled and indignant. It was weird to me that the the top regulators in the country were telling me go talk to somebody who's an industry insider because we don't understand the science. And when I talked to him, I caught him in a lie and both of us knew that he was lying and that and that both of us recognized that that he was lying. And at that point, I was What was the lie?"

"Well, I asked him this question. I said, why is it that CDC and and every state, regulator recommends that, that pregnant women do not eat tuna fish to avoid the mercury, but that CDC is recommending mercury containing flu shots with huge bolus doses of mercury. I mean, massive doses to pregnant women in every trimester of pregnancy. And he said to me he said, well, Bobby, in this kind of patronizing way and by the way, when I talked to Paul Offit, he started the conversation. He was very enthusiastic, and he said, you know, my your father was my hero."

"The reason I got into public service and public health was because I was inspired by your father. So that kinda you know, I'm susceptible like anybody else. It's kind of that kind of flattery. So I was inclined to like the guy. But then he said this I asked him about how can you be, you know, telling people not to eat women not to eat tuna fish, but giving them a flu shot that has, you know, these huge doses."

"And he said, well, Bobby, there are there's two kinds of mercury. There's a good mercury and there's a bad mercury. And the minute he said and I knew there's a different kind of mercury in the vaccines. It's it's ethylmercury in the vaccines and methylmercury in the fish. But I know a lot of by the end, you can imagine, I know a lot about mercury."

"I've been suing people. When you sue somebody on you get a PhD in that, you know more than anybody in the world. You have to or you're not gonna win your lawsuit. So I knew a lot about mercury, and I knew that his argument was not with me, but it was with the periodic tables because there's no such thing as a good mercury. And I also knew the history of why he was saying that because, you know, mercury was added to vaccines in a form called thimerosal in 1932."

"And Eli Lilly, which is a manufacturer, was because people knew then that mercury was horrendously neurotoxic. Mercury is a thousand times more neurotoxic than lead. You would never get shoot lead into your baby. Why was the thimerosal introduced? It was allegedly introduced as a preservative, but it doesn't kill it doesn't kill, streptococcus or any of the other contaminants you would be worried about."

"In fact, it kills brain cells at one thirtieth the dose that it takes to kill streptococcus or staphylococcus staphylococcus. So it wasn't a good preservative. Why what NIH admitted to me in 2016, the real reason was there as an adjuvant. An adjuvant is a a toxic material that they add to dead virus vaccines to amplify the, the immune response. So your body when when I mean, this is kinda getting into the weeds, but a live virus vaccine, if they give it to you, it can spread the disease."

"It can mutate and you would spread the disease. That's why most of the polio today seventy percent of the polio today is vaccine polio that came from the vaccines. But so the regulators expressed a preference for dead virus vaccines. The dead virus vaccine, however, will not produce a durable or robust immune response enough to get a license. The way you get a license for a vaccine is showing that you get an antibody response for a certain amount of time and that it's a strong antibody response."

"But the dead virus vaccine won't produce that. But vaccinologists figured out that if you add something horrendously toxic to the vaccine, that your body confuses that toxic product, you add it with the dead antigen, which is the viral particle. The your body confuses that toxin with the viral particle and gets frightened and mounts this huge, humongous immune response. The next time it sees that virus, the the the immune response is there. So they've at that point, vaccinologists went around searching around the world to find the most horrendously toxic materials to add to vaccines."

"And there's a mantra in vaccinology that the more toxic the the adjuvant, the more robust the immune response. And so that's why toxicologists and vaccinologists don't get along with each other because the toxicologists would say to the vaccinologist, well, I understand it gave you your immune response, but then what is the fate of that in your body? Where is it going? Is it being excreted? Is it being lodged in the brain?"

"Is it penetrating the blood brain barrier? And the the vaccinologist could not answer those questions and did not want to. So they basically moved the toxicologists out of these, you know, out of the vaccine all the whole vaccine universe. Anyway, what, so when it was added in 1932, the industry said Eli Lilly said, well, the reason because everybody was saying, well, how can you put mercury into a child? Who would do that?"

"And they said, well, it's a different kind of mercury. It's ethylmercury and the ethylmercury is excreted very quickly, so it won't stay in your body. They had no science to say that, but that's what they were saying for years. And then in 2003, a CDC scientist called Pichichero did a study where he gave tuna sandwiches that were mercury, you know, contaminated to children and they and then measured their blood and the mercury from the tuna sandwich was there half life sixty four days later. So it was still there sixty four days."

"And he injected the children with mercury from a vaccine, and that mercury disappeared from their blood within a week. And this kind of confirmed what Eli Lilly had said in 1932. Oh, it disappears really quickly from the body. And that was published, I believe, in the Lancet Pediatrics. But immediately, the journal began getting letters from people including this famous scientist called doctor Boyd Haley who is the head of he's the chair of that chemistry department of the University of Kentucky."

And he said, what but what happened to the mercury? Because Pichichero couldn't find it in the children's urine or in their feces or in their hair or sweat or nails. So where is it? And then and NIH actually then commissioned a study and they because they at that point, they were really trying to figure out, you know, whether this was dangerous. And they commissioned a very famous scientist called Thomas Burbacher up at the University of Washington Seattle to do a study with monkeys, with macaques."

"And he did the same study Pichichero did, but he did something you can't do with children, which he then killed the monkeys. And then he looked for the mercury, and what he found was the mercury, yes, it left their blood immediately. The ethylmercury from the vaccines was gone from their blood in a week. Methylmercury from the tuna fish was there two a month later two months later. But when he sacrificed the monkeys and did post mortems, he found that the mercury had not left their body."

"Instead, the reason it was disappearing from their blood is because ethylmercury crosses the blood brain barrier much easier than methylmercury. The ethylmercury from the vaccines was going directly to the brains of these animals, and it was lodging there and causing severe inflammation. And, and, you know, we now know it's there twenty years later. So, what you know, it's so when I'm on the phone with Offit and I said, he said the ethyl mercury is excreted quickly. And I said, how do you know that?"

"And he said, because of the Pichichero study. Because the study by, by Pichichero found that it was excreted quick in a week. And I said, but you're familiar with the Burbacher study that showed and that it's gone to the brain. And there was dead silence on the phone. And then he said to me, he kinda hemmed it all and said, well, you're right. It's not that study. It's just a whole mosaic of studies. And I said, can you cite any for me? And he said, I'll send them to you, and he never did."