Errol Morris interview (2023) about 'The Pigeon Tunnel' movie, with Jack Goldsmith

This interview with Errol Morris was first aired on November 22, 2023, on the 'The Lawfare Podcast'. The interviewer is Jack Goldsmith.

Errol Morris, film director of, 'The Pigeon Tunnel', a documentary about the life and career of the espionage novelist John le Carré, talks about the making of the documentary, and his interactions with le Carré.

The great documentary filmmaker Errol Morris is best known for films such as, 'The Thin Blue Line' and 'The Fog of War'. His latest film, 'The Pigeon Tunnel', is about the great espionage novelist John le Carré, whose real name is David Cornwell.

Jack Goldsmith recently sat down with Morris to talk about 'The Pigeon Tunnel.' They discussed le Carré’s complex and contradictory attitudes towards the Cold War, the influence of the traitorous British intelligence officer Kim Philby on le Carré's work, what Morris and le Carré have in common as documentarians, and how le Carré compares with Graham Greene and Joseph Conrad. Morris also reflected on his craft, including the difference between an interview and an interrogation and how he learned to interview a subject without saying anything.