Mary Rodwell on Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs, and Aliens – 1 of 2

Mary Rodwell compares her work in alien abduction with Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs. Mary is the Founder and Principal of Australian Close Encounter Resource Network. (ACERN). ACERN’s primary role is to offer professional counselling, support, hypnotherapy and information to individuals and their families with ‘anomalous’ paranormal experiences, particularly specializing in Abduction-contact experiences.

Mary is recognized internationally as one of Australia’s leading researchers in the UFO and Contact phenomenon. She is the author of Awakening: How Extraterrestrial Contact Can Transform Your Life.

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Mary Rodwell discusses the limitations of traditional ufology, which focuses on 3D aspects of UFO experiences, often ignoring the non-physical, multi-dimensional nature of encounters. She highlights that 75% of experiences involve non-physical interactions, such as out-of-body experiences and interdimensional travel. Rodwell emphasizes the importance of consciousness and the quantum hologram reality, suggesting that experiences change individuals' perceptions and lead to spiritual growth. She criticizes researchers like Budd Hopkins for their narrow focus and lack of openness to positive experiences. Rodwell also discusses the role of hybrids and the evolution of human consciousness, arguing that current technological advancements are driving a need for spiritual maturity.

Outline

Mary Rodwell's Role and Initial Thoughts on Ufology
Brian introduces Mary Rodwell, founder of the Australian Close Encounter Resource Network (ACERN), which offers counseling, support, hypnotherapy, and information to individuals with anomalous paranormal experiences.
Mary discusses the variety of experiences people have and how different perspectives, including therapists and hypnotists, interpret these experiences.
Mary criticizes the focus of ufology on proving the reality of UFOs through scientific methods, which often overlooks the non-physical aspects of experiences.
Mary highlights that 75% of experiences are non-physical, involving out-of-body experiences, interactions with other dimensions, and non-linear time.

The Limitations of 3D Perspectives in Ufology
Mary argues that focusing solely on 3D aspects of UFO experiences limits understanding and ignores the non-physical interactions.
Mary emphasizes the importance of listening to experiencers and being less arrogant about what is considered impossible.
Brian suggests that ufology needs to move beyond proving the reality of UFOs to understanding the deeper implications of these experiences.
Mary explains that the focus should be on consciousness and the non-linear nature of reality, as explored by ACERN.

The Broader Paradigm and Quantum Hologram Reality
Mary introduces the concept of the quantum hologram reality, where everything is connected and consciousness is non-local.
Mary discusses the research of Dr. Rudy Schild who suggests that everything is connected through a quantum hologram.
Mary explains that experiences like being taken on a light ship or interacting with non-human intelligences are possible within this framework.
Mary argues that the proof of these experiences lies in the changes they bring to individuals, such as a more holistic lifestyle and increased sensitivity to non-physical phenomena.

The Problem with Science and the Need for a Broader Perspective
Brian criticizes science for its atheistic and 3D focus, which denies higher realms of existence.
Mary agrees, stating that science's narrow perspective limits understanding of non-physical phenomena.
Mary mentions that scientists are beginning to recognize the brain's capacity to work with up to 11 dimensions.
Mary discusses the Russian research on holographic DNA, which suggests that DNA can access miniature wormholes and provide intuition.

Comparing Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs' Research
Brian asks about the differences between Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs' research.
Mary mentions meeting Budd Hopkins and his reluctance to accept positive experiences or spiritual growth as valid.
Mary criticizes Hopkins for his bias and lack of objectivity in interpreting experiences.
Mary explains that Hopkins' focus on 3D aspects of experiences limited his understanding of multi-dimensional interactions.

The Importance of Therapeutic Neutrality in Ufology
Mary emphasizes the importance of therapists being neutral and objective in interpreting experiencers' experiences.
Mary argues that the experiencer's interpretation of their experience is more important than the therapist's.
Mary discusses the differences between conscious memory and hypnosis, with conscious memory being more trusted by people.
Mary explains the process of accessing information through hypnosis and the importance of asking the right questions.