DARVO and Matthew 18 - Silence the Victims - Detangling IHOPKC - Jed Hartley - Episode 247 Podcast

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John Collins and Jed Hartley discuss the pervasive and harmful patterns of abuse, cover-up, and victim suppression within the charismatic church movement. They focus specifically on the abuse allegations surrounding Mike Bickle and the International House of Prayer in Kansas City (IHOPKC). The conversation highlights how systemic issues allow predators to thrive under the guise of spiritual authority, particularly within hierarchical structures where critical thinking is suppressed. The hosts emphasize the importance of recognizing DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender) as a strategy used to discredit victims and maintain control. Jed shares personal experiences, including his father’s betrayal and defense of Mike Bickle, despite acknowledging his past actions. Together, they explore how religious systems often manipulate victims into silence through spiritual guilt and isolation while failing to provide proper accountability.

The hosts call for systemic reform in the way churches handle abuse allegations. They highlight the need for external accountability, congregational education, and advocacy outside church structures to prevent abusers from evading justice. Drawing comparisons to the Catholic Church’s reforms, they argue that charismatic churches must implement similar safeguards to protect victims. Their conversation ends with a shared hope that future generations will look back on this time as a turning point for widespread change within charismatic communities.