Mark McAfee: "I was on a Zoom call the other day and said: "In our labs, we can tell we're only ...

Mark McAfee: "I was on a Zoom call the other day and said: "In our labs, we can tell we're only one (bird flu virus) mutation away. We created that mutation artificially." I'm sorry. Are we talking about Wuhan and China here? In the United States, we're screwing around with these genetics and making these mutations happen that don't naturally occur in nature?"

"My biggest thing with this is this. Don't mess around in the labs because you're screwing around with life. That's not right. That's artificial inducement of something that's not supposed to happen. So man made stuff is dangerous."

"I'm very calm. I know exactly what's going on. I've talked to the best scientists in the world on this thing, And it's what we're doing in the labs that's messing us up more than anything. And, so I think we're a good place, and it's it's one of those things we have to kinda overcome all the fear."