Giuliani — Cohen Is A Liar, He's A Proven Liar

Then when Cuomo asked how Trump could have known a dollar amount, Giuliani opined, “Cohen could have told him two hours before and not taped it. How do I — there’s one conversation between Cohen and the president that’s taped. You think they had one conversation in two years?”

Giuliani then tried to argue about other unclear moments on the tape.

Cuomo then pointed out that he had a forensic audio expert backing up his version of the events.

Giuliani said he had three forensic experts.

“Be open to the possibility you’re wrong,” Cuomo advised.

“I’m not wrong. I heard it myself, “Guiliani snapped back.

“You could be wrong, Rudy,” Cuomo pushed on.

Giuliani then noted that it didn’t really matter what was said on the tape because “Be that as it may, the man [Michael Cohen] is a liar. A proven liar. There’s no way you’re going to bring down the president of the United States on the testimony uncorroborated of a proven liar. I guarantee you this guy is a proven liar.”