The 2005 Kay Griggs Interview, Part 3/3 - Disclosure of the Global Cabal/Mafia (Timestamped)

Kay Griggs was married to Colonel George Griggs, who ran special operations for NATO and his tenure included the Beirut bombings.

Her husband had many vices, and while he was drunk he would disclose secrets to her. She reveals a shadowy network of a global mafia with occult traditions going back to Ancient Greece (or perhaps earlier).

This global cabal, which her husband referred to as "the joint," works directly with the highest level military intelligence agencies across the world, even of governments that publicly are "enemies." Degenerate sex parties, drugs, trauma based mind control, massive underground bunkers, etc. are all involved.

We learn again that war is indeed a racket. Wars are mostly created for show, to steal resources, sell/test weapon systems, to train assassins, launder money, manipulate markets, act as distractions, create black markets -- that sort of stuff.

The Kay Griggs interviews, which this is the 3rd set (I believe), is probably one of the most important pieces of modern disclosure into how the world actually works. Many of the "heroes" and celebrities of the "alternative media" sphere that are highly platformed (e.g. Whitney Webb, Alex Jones, Ian Carroll -- among others), will not talk about these interviews although they know of it.

In Webb's case, and I'm just using her as an example, she's from a wealthy "cabal" connected family and is a trust funder. Her publisher is Mint Pres which is tied to Chatham House/The Royal Institute of International Affairs, the policy arm of the Committee of 300. You'll get good info from her, but it's allowed info.

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Summary
(00:21-01:35) Kay Griggs discusses the illegal activities involving NATO and retired military personnel, including drug trafficking operations out of Norway and Mexico, allegedly involving small nuclear devices and drugs like cocaine and heroin.

(02:19-03:05) Griggs describes secret underground bunkers, built by a group known as "Red Horse," used for storing and shipping weapons and drugs across various countries, including the U.S., Norway, and Germany.

(04:21-05:25) She expresses her belief that there are still honorable military individuals like Colin Powell and General Zinni who are aware of the corruption but are limited in their ability to act against it.

(08:15-10:00) Griggs shares details on Ron Brown's controversial death, suggesting foul play, and mentions non-lethal weapons programs that are, in her opinion, quite dangerous and cruel.

(12:15-13:26) Griggs describes instances of personal threats and intimidation she faced after speaking out, highlighting the pervasive fear in military and political circles regarding exposing corruption.

(25:36-27:15) She comments on the state of American governance, asserting that current leadership is influenced by outside groups, particularly Zionists, which she believes contributes to America's internal struggles.

(41:04-44:08) Griggs shares conspiracy theories surrounding the September 11 attacks, suggesting that multiple operations were at play and hints at German involvement in the execution of these plans.

Transcript:
(00:21) Kay Griggs Interview of Jeff Rense Interview of Kay Griggs Well, weapons and this kind of thing, which they're selling through Israeli channels and some of the black market individuals. Talking about small nuclear warheads as well. Yes, and drugs. And I met, I'm not going to mention of course who, but I met the person who was in charge of the drug lord in Norway. He and George, I guess they thought I was really naive, you know, but I heard the conversation.
(00:53) What was it like? Well, this fellow was running Norwegian drug operations out of prison, under the nose of this friend who'd been with my husband at the NATO Defense College in Rome. Cocaine, heroin, what? Yes, yes. And I know for a fact that another Marine colonel, retired, was involved with doing that, channeling it through Mexico, Lake Chapala. No problem getting drugs into this country. No, and these are retired colonels who were close friends of the Chief of Staff of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.
(01:35) And another man was murdered, a colonel, and I was involved with helping his brother, Dr. Sabo, to get this brought to light because Colonel Sabo was murdered. His wife, his doctor brother, and everyone down there knew that he did not commit suicide. And if you look on the internet under S-A-B-O-W, you'll find David Hoffman's book on the internet about that. We covered that in the past. Did you? Yep. And Ron Ray is aware of it. He's another colonel who's aware of the homosexual involvement.
(02:19) Underground bunkers. Secret underground. How big? Well, one of the people I was with, who, NATO, German, of course, New Jersey, in the Air Force, they build these bunkers. It's Red Horse. They're called the Red Horses. And you know, the red symbolizes the elite group. And then there's purple, which my husband used a purple pen, so he was higher up than the red ones. And I was told about the bunkers that the Red Horse Germans in the United States build, Air Force, and they're, you know, six floors down. They're all over the place. And, of course, we know about Mount Weather and that kind of place.
(03:05) So these are used as transshipment points for not only weapons, but drugs. In Germany and in Norway and in England and in other countries. So they store these weapons and so forth. And they're shipped from, here in Newport News, they have these ships, which the military guys change hats. They look like civilian ships, but they're loaded right there.
(03:30) The army, you know, the guy who was made to retire in just recently, the operation that's going on right now? Yeah, just last week. Yeah, well, he would have been in charge of these huge shipments going over to be stored in Norway, Stavanger, and that area. In fact, my husband was very involved with setting that up. Kay, it sounds like it's rotten from the top down. Well, I think there are good people. And I really believe there are people working on the inside, like Colin Powell. Now, I don't know what you think, but I really feel that people like General Zinni and Colin Powell.
(04:21) Right. Now, they're Americans. Yes, and they're real Americans. And they know what these people are doing. Colin Powell did as much as he could do, then he had to step out. Yes, he did. A really wonderful man. Yeah, working against impossible. And there are Marines, too, who are good, whom I know, who know what's going on and work within the system, like Zinni, speaking out, high level. Well, these are great Americans who are still there.
(04:49) And Scott Ritter was a Marine who speaks out. Yep, well, Scott's work has been on all over the Internet and another truly amazing... Just wonderful work. They tried to trash him, too. Oh, they do. They have paid operatives who are trying to say, I'm making this up or whatever. But I have the pictures. I have the diary and Pastor Strawcutter has copies of them on his video. Going back to Ron Brown, another crook, took a wrong step and they removed him. But they removed a lot of other people, as well.
(05:25) You're familiar with the story about Shelley Kelly, the stewardess. True story? Yeah, yeah, I heard that from Sarah. And Sarah heard it from... She was in contact with high-level generals, Sarah McClendon, senior White House correspondent. And I was there when that happened and when the naval chief was murdered. Borda. Yeah, there were quite a number of murders. It was an Air Force chief of staff who just was going in and his plane went down.
(05:59) There was Clinton's birthday plane that went down on his birthday night. He was supposed to be on it. Oh, so Clinton was supposed to be exited. Yeah, Clinton. You see, Sarah believed that the guy who had the office across from Foster, Nussbaum, was involved with... Foster's murder? Yeah, because otherwise you find there is an assassin, a former assassin turned lawyer, who's given Harvard Law School or whatever, who has an office directly across from the good guy, the innocent...
(06:38) The victim? Yeah, the victim. Amazing. Back in a minute, talk about Ron Brown and the fact that they would never allow his autopsy pictures, x-rays of his head to be shown. And much more with Kay Griggs after this. Alright, back with Kay Griggs.
(08:15) Ron Brown's murder. We know the story about the woman, one of the medical examiners, Air Force, I think she was Air Force anyway, or Navy, tried to make the x-rays available. There was a hole in the top of his head about the size of a .45 caliber slug. They say they have weapons that can shoot frozen pieces of very cold ice. Oh, I had a copy which was taken out of my house of a book of just listing page after page of what they called non-lethal, which were very lethal by the way, weapons.
(08:52) And it was put out, written, compiled by a doctor who was in San Diego area for this Air Force group in Colorado Springs. And you cannot believe the hideous, cruel, they had ice, you know, the ice bullets. I mean, it was just, I couldn't believe it. It was just like the brochure I saw with the Twin Towers and Bin Laden's face a year before 9-1-1, which was put out by the OPSEC group. I mean, literally before 9-1-1, they had a glossy colored book showing it off at the Naval Institute with the Twin Towers on the front and Bin Laden superimposed a year before the 9-1-1.
(10:00) People, just citizens like me, just would not believe how thick some of these psychological operations that they use, the chemicals, the biologicals that they use on people, on human beings, and sometimes without their knowledge, you know, prisoners and soldiers who just have no idea that they're being used as guinea pigs. Not a clue. Not a clue. And I wouldn't have believed it either if I hadn't married the man I married.
(10:44) When you talk about this to Sarah McClendon, she probably was not surprised by too much of it. Oh, no. In fact, Sarah told me, she said, she tried to get hold of me, which I think I mentioned to you, and was blocked. My phone was being blocked, and there, I could tell you some stories about that, and I mean, you would not believe it. She had to go to Maryland, and she called me, because she told me she was going to call
(11:13) me back, and a couple of days, she was working on a book. They were writing a book about her, another book about her. And she had to go to Maryland and call me, and she said, Mrs. Griggs, I want you to come up here right away and talk to my study group in the press club. And so I went up, and, you know, she had to kind of hit me in the side to get me to talk, because there were all these, we asked where they were from, and there were people from
(11:46) the, you know, FBI, CIA, military intelligence, NSA, who were sitting around this table just looking at me, and after having had death threats and windows smashed, and knowing that my husband's lawyer was Barry Cantor, who was an Air Force colonel, dirty trickster, bragged about it in Masonic Temple No. 1, and the three judges were also, I found out, in Masonic Temple No.
(12:15) 1 in Norfolk, and they happened to have all been Jewish, and I don't know, you know, I'm not, but I just thought, well, this is really not fair when you've got military people who are in the same Masonic Lodge as judges, and my husband's lawyer. It's no wonder that my couple of lawyers just said, well, no, I don't think I can handle this case, because, you know, they were caught in my neighborhood, the Navy SEALs were, going in with my suitcase in the woods.
(12:47) A judge who lives across the street found an open suitcase of mine that was in my car, and they'd taken it out, strewn, things were all over his woods. I mean, it was just, it's horrible, and I'm not the only wife. I mean, this is the norm. If the wife is in trouble, sometimes they do the dying, and I've talked to some wives whose husbands were murdered right in their own home. Is this, among this group, and you mentioned that Norfolk is quite, is it,
(13:26) I guess there has to be a certain amount of fear-based underlying current to all of this, because the stakes are very high, and human life obviously means next to nothing to these people. No, not anything. Tell us more about Norfolk, which is, of course, one of the Navy's vital organs, as it were. Well, my whole family have been reserve Naval officers, but civilians, you know, business people, doctors, and attorneys, and so forth, and I, when I was a girl, you know,
(14:04) made my debut and went to all the MIDI dances, had my picture shaking hands with Admiral McCain, with John McCain's father, you know, and the Navy, to me, is just a wonderful organization. Lots of my friends were Navy brats, and so forth, but I never, you know, we have in Norfolk the largest military complex in the world, and I don't know why they've done this, why they've concentrated the Air Force, NASA, Langley is here, we've got the, you know,
(14:45) the whole Operations Army base at Fort Monroe, and Fort Story, they have these commands that are little commands that are on big bases. I mean, you think that Little Creek is just a Naval base, amphibious base, but it has, you know, there are subcommands on these bases, which are joint, and the same thing, you know, Dam Neck, they have the group that goes abroad and kills people, the 6th, SEAL Team 6, which is called Red Cell.
(15:18) The Red Horse is another bunker builder group that's international. The red just means that they go abroad and they are involved with killing, and so forth. Purple is the level that my husband was on, you know, writing, signing his name in purple, and he showed me his purple pen, and, you know, he had a desk just like Rummy's, a stand tall desk, and, you know, he was trying to emulate Rummy and sort of, but, no, Norfolk is a really key place. We have aircraft carriers, and the Master Jet Base is here.
(16:08) Sounds like one of the greatest targets in history. Well, yeah, and why would they concentrate all of this? We've also got an oil refinery, and, I mean, all these, it's just not a very safe place to be now. Doesn't sound like it. No. Talk more about Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. Well, in the diary, George, there's sort of a triumvirate, General Joy and General Carl Steiner, who was Army.
(16:42) These were special ops people who did dirty tricks, and they were involved in the Waco. Dirty tricks, meaning deadly dirty tricks. Yeah, yeah, and Steiner and Joy were involved with what happened with Noriega, because, you know, they're booming boomboxes and poisoning, you know, it's just the whole rainbow of things that they can do to people to make them part of the PSYOP, you know, tricks, and so, anyway, the Clinton administration, Monica, I believe, was put there, planted there by
(17:30) Carl Steiner, Linda Tripp worked for Carl Steiner, and Linda Tripp was under Nussbaum, and Linda Tripp was an operative. Her husband was an operative. She worked for Steiner down at the JFK little assassin school there at Fort Bragg. It's, you know, the elite group that was involved with naturally training the Rangers and, you know, the parade boys, the French, the guys with the red hats, I don't know, you know, they have all these colors,
(18:08) switching things around, but she was an operative and had been, like so many of them, like North, caught with their hand in the tail when they were a teenager, and then told, well, we're going to protect you and not tell on you, but make you famous. In other words, that was the thing that got them into the criminal world within the military, and Linda Tripp was a handler for Monica, and...
(18:37) Monica knew it, right? Of course, Monica had that psychological profile where she, you know, she was raised in the culture in which she was raised, it's okay to have sex, for girls to have sex. But she was a dual citizen as well, dual loyalist anyway. Yeah, dual, yeah, she was a Zionist, is, or whatever, and they, you know, if you've ever read and talked to those folks, they think it's, even in their, their scriptural writings, it's okay to have sex with children.
(19:12) You know, it's, it's not considered bad, but she had, you know, and she has no guilt about it, and so naturally, when you put a girl who's young, who's already had a history of this kind of behavior in with the President, they knew what was going to happen. All right, hold on, we'll pause and come right back with Kay Griggs. There are a lot of books out there, by the way, which underwrite, substantiate, validate all the things she's saying, and we'll talk about some of those as well.
(19:47) For those of you who are honestly skeptical and would like more proof, we'll offer some choices for you to pursue, and other things as well. So, hang on, we'll be right back. Back with more after the top of the hour break. Hi, welcome back, talking with Kay Griggs, our number three coming up, our second conversation,
(21:28) our first one on August the 3rd is in the archives for you to check out. I've also moved Greg Simansky's article back up to the first news block. It's up there right now. You can see it as the title sticks right out, The Evil Lurking Within. Please do read it and summarize some of what we talked about tonight and talk about much more as well. The major players, the big names, all from her former husband's arrogant, inebriated
(21:57) ramblings as she has been describing. There are so many of them. This went on for how many years, Kay? Well, until he would leave and come back, you know, he couldn't stop drinking, but I tried really, really hard to get him to stop drinking. He went to counselors and the VA. Did he ever get to the point where he said, you know, okay, I've talked too much. Don't repeat this. Did he warn you about that? He must have.
(22:33) Yeah. Well, he did one time when he was drinking, a couple of, well, there were a number of incidents that were akin to that, where he would just put a pistol to my head and tell me to, you know, not think about that or talk about that anymore. And that's when I started biting my fingernails because I never, I knew he had this big rifle, but I didn't know that he had this pistol and he, you know, he would get into these,
(23:04) he'd run around the house with no clothes on, he'd run outside and yell and scream. I mean, he wasn't, I'm sure that they knew how he was and I could not get anybody to help me. And this was after wife number one was dead and that's not right. Now you suffered, you suffered a lot of physical abuse too. He broke, he broke my leg, he socked me in the chest and I still have just these veins that are, you know, popped.
(23:43) He tried to kill me quite a number of times, but he was, he was deranged when, when he was like that. He'd wake up in the middle of the night and just, you know, kick me out of bed. And of course this is post-traumatic stress and I didn't know anything about it, but I tried to get some help for him and for me really hard. But the problem was that he, he, that gun was, was a special registered gun and I did
(24:17) a bad thing. I just, one, one day I found it and I took it and threw it in the river and boy, he warned me then. You know, I mean, I, I was talked to a number of times when I was down there at the Marine Corps base. And I took the pictures in the Austin club that night. That was a really bad thing for me to do. He chased me down the dock and I, you know, jumped in the water and held onto the piers. I, it was, I was raised with brothers on a farm and I'm telling you, um, it was tough.
(24:55) I mean, I'm a country girl, but I've never thought back. I mean, I don't believe in that. I believe in talking and communicating and trying to get help coming from a medical family. So, uh, they, they knew how he was and he's married again and I'm, I'm really frightened. For her, but, um, hopefully, you know, they've got him on some pills or something. How, how do you view the Bush presidency? I mean, his, his whole, the whole process, his original, his original nomination and
(25:36) everything. Now, two presidential elections stolen, basically. It's a farce. It's really sad to me because you, you know, he's, he's not right. You can just look at him. He sort of reminds me of Alfred E. Newman. Yeah. I mean, I like his, his mother, um, and, uh, George introduced George Bush Sr. to Parker Host and, um, George is very close. My husband is very close to George Bush and James Baker. James Baker's a Marine and he was in Cap and Gown.
(26:10) So, you know, but, um, I mean, I, I think he's just being run by these, these Zionists and they could care less about America. I think it's part of their plan. Using this as a cash cow. Absolutely. They're just a, it's a parasitic relationship. They're Trotskyites and they are, uh, wanting to destroy America from within. They're doing a good job. Did your husband ever, did you ever talk to your husband about the, the obvious
(26:39) intentional opening of America's borders to Latin America and the flood tide of 20 to 25 million illegal aliens and what they're doing to what's left of our economy? Do you ever talk to him about that? Yeah. It, you see, it's all part of the word shape, you know, think about the word shape, shaping the new world order. Right. This group that is now has totally stolen our military, our banks, our, um, and they're trying to destroy our culture, um, from within.
(27:15) This is what they plan to do. What, what the Galen group and the, you know, the Germans and the, the, uh, Russian Soviet, um, you know, the, the group that came in was led in by, uh, by the thousands after World War II was institutionalized. So it, you know, everybody knows what, you know, the red cell does and who controls the Marine Corps, 4th Marine. We, we, you know, temperify Dallas is the Rothschild coat of arms and Roth
(27:55) means red shield and the money that, you know, so. No. So no problem for, uh, American troops to fire on Americans if necessary in the streets here. No, I, in my view, um, because these people, they've, they've been bringing in unbeknownst to most American citizens. I've known about it ever since I was married to George. They, they, they bring in by the thousands through the department of state, young boys who might be 18 years old through the, through the, uh,
(28:28) military attache, the embassy, they pick out rising stars, the diplomat fund, and they turn them, they bring them to the United States. They give them $850 a month. They are, they do criminal activity or murders and fascinations. And in four years, guess what? They become a citizen. So they're literally bribed to become an American citizen, um, or their sister in India having a wedding and they, they just struggle and it's just
(29:05) been going on for so long. And they train at, at Quantico. It's, um, it's no secret. That, that they do all of this joint training with Germans, Israelis, Indians, Koreans, Indonesians, Iranians. They brought over thousands of, of Iranians, uh, Swartzkopf dad introduced the Masonic quote unquote religion to Iran in the twenties to brainwash them. And then in the sixties, they just poured into, uh, schools like, uh, VMI
(29:46) and the Citadel and West Point and Annapolis just, you know, 30, 40 in a year, and then they go back and they're, you know, all their secrets are known. And they can be used by the CIA or whatever to, the Israelis to, they can make somebody poor like Oswald, you know, go from job to job, or even like my husband, I mean, he had to go when he was ordered. And they still feel as though they're poor, and they, so they can still do anything.
(30:26) They, it's a love-hate kind of thing, they use fear tactics and they use money. What do you see happening? There's all this chatter and noise on the internet about another 9-11, I'm so tired of seeing people predict there's going to be a nuclear attack on the American city. Oh, I know, I don't, that to me, I mean, if there is, we know it's done out of Fort Monroe, but I'm not, I don't know, I mean, I think that it's like so many things, if
(30:56) people are aware of this General, I mean, he, bless his heart, because he is a sacrificial lamb of that guy that, you know, Hadley and the General, that German General, what's his name, who was the Chief of Staff of the Army, who really is strange. You know, Miller, that Jeffrey Miller down there. Oh yeah, so many stories, so many people, and you've, you've just pulled so many things out of the darkness tonight for us to take another look at.
(31:38) Well, truth is light, and light is truth, and God is in charge, and it only takes one or two people. Look at what Christ did. Well, it's true. You know? You're making your contribution, my friend. Stand by me. I love this country. Yeah. And I love Virginia. A lot of us do, so hold on, we'll be right back. Okay, and we're back with Kay Griggs.
(33:05) Kay, for those who may be doubting any of this, and kind of, yeah, she's just a bitter ex-wife, she's out for publicity, you know how people are when they're not honest skeptics or questioners. What other books would you recommend? What books in general would you recommend? What resources? Well, I'm a former schoolteacher and history major, and I think that for people who don't, it depends on what they want to know about, there are people like David Wise, who knows
(33:35) about the inside of the intelligence community, who's written any number of books, fiction and non-fiction, like The Spy Who Got Away, Spectrum, Norman Mailer, Harlot Ghost is just a general kind of fiction book, but he was definitely in the intelligence, CIA, assassin kind of world, and you can read any of those books. For people who want to know about our assassination of men, there are lots of non-fiction books,
(34:20) like Widows, Four American Spies, The Wives They Left Behind, and that's by Corson and Trento, Susan Trento and Joseph Trento, that is an excellent book. It's called Widows, and there are three authors there who really tell about how the army and the military murder their own, and there are books like William Hoffman and Lake Headley, H-E-A-D-L-E-Y's book Contract Killer, which tells about the military's involvement with
(34:59) the mafia, what the most notorious mafia hitman, Donald Tony the Greek Franco, and he was supposed to have murdered Hoffa, but it tells how the military, his training in the military, really enabled him to not spend any time in prison, and to make friends with police officers, and in other words, these guys, and I'm not saying because they're white, but generally, if they're African American or women, we're way down on the totem pole, so Marilyn Monroe
(35:41) or Martha Mitchell or Mary Myers, just neutralize us, or the blacks, or Martha Stewart. Yeah, what do you know about Martha Stewart? Well, she fired, and I'm not anti-homosexual either, I just don't like it when they rape little boys like my husband, you know, and Oswald, but she was targeted by this homosexual whom she fired, and they're really rage-filled people when they, you know, they don't like women, they don't like women who have power.
(36:14) Look at the Roman Catholic Church, what they did to Cathar. Well, let's go back to the late 1970s when homosexual radicals, I'm not talking about all homosexuals, homosexual radicals fought and succeeded in destroying the most obvious common-sense kinds of public health policies we should have immediately adopted to deal with HIV AIDS. They destroyed them, and that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. They treated, they demanded, they bribed, they forced our public health policies to
(36:54) reconfigure themselves to treat HIV AIDS as a social disease. To this day, we have no legal right to know who is or who is not infected and carrying up to 30 opportunistic diseases. We do not have the right to know. However, if someone has syphilis, they're tracked, they're identified, all their contacts are traced, but not HIV AIDS. So, yes, we go back, you're right, there is a homosexual rage among certain members of that community, the radicals.
(37:25) They are absolutely responsible for a catastrophe in this country. And it's the same reason that they don't let people know in Virginia who the child pedophiles are. You know, the pedophile group is very, you know, they're involved with some of the homosexuals. And, you know, police officers like the one Shorty Satterwhite, who was a Marine, who was a known homosexual in the Virginia Beach Police Department, who was assigned to me with
(38:00) the house break-ins. And I found out, you know, not only was he homosexual, but he had served as a Marine for 20 years. And the FBI guy, you know, the same thing happened where I called the FBI, and there was Dan McNally, and found out that he was a Cherry Marine, and he had served under Al Gray. And, you know, it's kind of as though the pedophiles, you can't find out who the pedophiles are.
(38:32) These priests, like David Ferry, he'd been outed as a pedophile priest in Illinois, but he was sent down to New Orleans, and he was recruiting and raping little boys. And if you read William Manchester's book, The Arms of Krupp, William Manchester was a very bright Marine. He was a great writer. Yeah, and this book, The Arms of Krupp, will tell readers, people who don't believe about the German disease and the high command being this way, just read The Arms of Krupp, and what went on on the Isle of Capri.
(39:13) Well, all right. So... Stand by, a break at the bottom of the hour here. Come back, two more segments to go with Kay Griggs. And if anyone wants to call in, we're on delay in many places, but some of you are listening, certainly live right now, many, in fact. If you want to call in with a question, perhaps, 800-259-9231. 800-259-9231. A lot of sharp folks listening out there now, and if you want to ask this brave lady something, go ahead, give us a ring. 800-259-9231.
(39:56) 800-259-9231. Jeff Rense Interview of Kay Griggs Hi, I'm back with Kay Griggs. September 11th, the amount of data piling up now, which not only refutes but makes an utter mockery of the government's lousy, transparent attempt to cover this great crime up is about the size of Mount Everest now. There's a lot of disinformation out there, but in general, this thing reeks. Any idea who planned it, who carried it out, from your perspective, what are your thoughts
(41:04) on that? Well, I know that there were a couple of operations that began exactly that day. Yeah, there were, I think, four altogether, believe it or not. Yeah, and one of them was run out of Tampa by the second in command, a Marine, and the head guy just happened to be away, and the joint chief, the head, happened to be away, and a Marine was running back. I think it was called Bright Star, you know, very masonic, and it involved, you know, people
(41:41) getting in planes and thinking that they were playing a game, and some of my friends around here who have married guys like George feel that, do you remember the Justice Department number two guy whose wife was on one of those planes? Right. And they feel that possibly these guys were working for the Tampa German, in other words, it was a German involvement with ATTA and so forth, and I know that... Well, he was over there for a while.
(42:18) Well, my husband had these Germans over one of the times just before he left, and this was a very high-level Brentistock member, and they're all involved with operations because operations are income-producing, and, you know, they're fun, quote-unquote, they think they're fun, and they're planned in Suffolk. We have a huge game room for military and civilian boys who haven't grown up, and they plan a number of the Twin Towers being hit by planes, and I think that everybody knows
(43:08) about these operations, and there was one in London that went on exactly the same day and the same tube station and the same bus, which, these are not games that are just... These are real operations. Right, this was a big-time program. Absolutely it was, without a question. No question. Everybody seems to know it but Americans. Well, even on the street here they know it. I mean, everybody feels that way. Well, they're intuitively waking up, but I mean, yeah, the Europeans...
(43:37) In Virginia? I don't know one adult person who doesn't believe that 9-1-1 was an inside job. Inside and outside the military? Yeah. There you go. Yeah, Europeans have been well ahead of us on this, but America has awakened as much as it's probably going to, as a tremendous groundswell of revulsion and disgust by this. Do you see these killers? I've said it before. I don't think they're ever going to give up willingly on their control.
(44:08) I think they'll take as much of the planet down with them as they can before giving it up. Do you agree? Well, that's what I'm afraid of. I mean, if you have people, robotic Manchurian candidates, like a Schoonmaker, you know, this Able Danger, and you've got committees led by Maureen Duck and Hunter and guys like John Layman, who, you know what he was doing at Tailhook, and, I mean, Tim Romer and his reputation, my goodness, and you've got people who have things to hide, like Gilmour, and
(44:50) you have them overseeing 9-1-1, there's a problem. When they named Henry Kissinger, I mean, the game was obvious, and that ended it right there. Well, let's take a few calls from folks here who have some questions for you. Let's go to San Francisco and say hello to Julian. Hi, Julian. Thanks for listening. What's your question for Kay Griggs? Yeah, great show and great guest tonight, Jeff. Thank you, sir. My question for Kay is, how far does she think the Valerie Plame grand jury investigation
(45:23) will go in Chicago? Well, I think it depends on the guy who's in charge and what kind of pressure they put on him. Fitzpatrick? Yeah. And, you know, Illinois is quite a place for the Democrats and the Republicans, and if there's any pressure to be applied to him, it certainly will be, and they'll get rid of a son. They tried to get Gore's son, they've made threats against Perot's daughter. Well, Gore's son, by the way, married the granddaughter of Jacob Schiff.
(46:07) Isn't that amazing? Talk about an Illuminati wedding. Exactly. Protecting. Man. Yeah, that's protecting him. Unreal. Well, we don't know, Julian, and the bottom line is these indictments, if they're real and there's evidence to suggest that they are quite real, they may never go anywhere. They just could be buried. Exactly. We just don't know, and there's so much, again, power and pressure, and the power is life
(46:30) and death here. A couple phone calls and these things just don't move, that's my feeling. Yeah. Well, thank you for taking my call. Thanks very much for being out there and caring. We appreciate it. Sure. All right, in New York, Posey has called in. Hello, Posey. Hi. Welcome. What's your question? I just tuned in and I heard you talking about the homosexuals, and I was wondering if you ever heard of the Saturn Project?
(46:57) Spell it. It's Saturn, like the planet Saturn Project. Okay. Saturn. Ever heard of the Saturn Project? No, no, I haven't, but I've heard a lot about some of the various ones that, you know, are involved with the ... There are a number of books and so forth. The expert on that is Colonel Ron Ray, who wrote a book called Military Necessity and Homosexuality. Oh, really? That's Colonel Ron Ray. That's an excellent book from a Marine telling about it.
(47:26) There's another excellent one. Give the title again, Kay. It's Military Necessity and Homosexuality, published in Louisville, Kentucky, First Principals Press, 1993, by Colonel Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps. All right. Write that down. There's another excellent book, I believe it's Randy Schiltz, S-H-I-L-T-S, called Conduct Unbecoming, about gays and lesbians in the U.S. military, St. Martin's Press, 1993.
(48:09) The bottom line is, there's a ton of material out there, Posey, and Saturn project may have been one of many. We don't know, but it is being used to control, manipulate, and usurp the individuality of too many people, unfortunately, and not just a lifestyle issue, it's a political tool now. Yes. Well, everything that's involved, every human trait is being used against us. You got it, my friend. Thanks for the call.
(48:35) That's what they were looking for. Yes, sir. Take care. We'll take a short break and come right back with Kay Griggs in just a couple of minutes. Hi, welcome back, and again, our phone number, we have a couple of callers on hold, 1-800-259-9231. 800-259-9231, Kay Griggs, my guest tonight. In part two, the first one is in the archives on October, August rather, August 3rd in LA, Ray has called in.
(49:44) Hi, Ray. Welcome. Hi. Go right ahead. Yeah, hi. I was wanting to ask a couple of things. I guess I'll just throw these questions out. Oh, just one at a time, please. Okay. Well, first of all, I was wondering about, you know, because Bohemian Grove just... Jeff Rense Interview of Kay Griggs Jeff Rense Interview of Kay Griggs Jeff Rense Interview of Kay Griggs Jeff Rense Interview of Kay Griggs
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