MUST WATCH - Art of the Surge - Episode 5: Debategate 2024

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Wow. The ABC HQ where Trump debated with Biden was worse than North Korea. Couldn't go anywhere without a liaison. Trump has command of an entire room wherever he goes asking questions adapting to the abyss as he journeyed through it. Legend.

Donald Trump suspects he is entering enemy territory for a debate against Kamala Harris. See what happened before, during and after it. And then Trump and his team escape ABC to make a surprise stop.

Our cameras enter the ABC News debate hall for the Trump-Harris showdown — the only footage captured inside not from the television network. And what we uncovered inside is truly shocking.

Transcript
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[Applause]
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now today we're going to capture a
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really cool cool thing often when it
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comes to political outings you don't get
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to see the heart in the nature of the
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candidates especially Trump my son is
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obsessed with Donald Trump he loves him
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since he's almost 2 years old and for
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his birthday he said he wanted a letter
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from Donald Trump because he teach on
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making trying to make America greater
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again so I reached out and didn't expect
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it to happen but it did is this Leah he
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wrote him back and my son was hysterical
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crying tears of joy he was happy and he
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didn't didn't know what to do it was
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wishing me a happy
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birthday and it was and they was and he
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was saying that
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he's that he's keeping me and his PR so
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he's in the room yes and he doesn't know
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that he's about to beat Donald Trump
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first time he has no clue I just want my
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son to be happy I want him to enjoy the
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moment it's a Once in a-lifetime chance
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for him and I just want to live through
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his emotions where's our beautiful
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Liam even though I'm supposed to be on
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the stage you know I'm supposed to be on
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that stage but that doesn't matter
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because I got you the best president
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you'll ever have this is the best
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president you'll ever have how are
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you this and in there is real good stuff
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okay so beautiful thank you just going
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phers we want to have that picture of
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her life okay you and I is she going to
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come out and watch them of course cuz I
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left the stage in order to come and say
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hello see how special you are okay so
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beautiful so you take care of Mom and
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Dad is that sister SC of us a lot of
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gray hair why don't you do this take
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care of yourself okay I'm going to go
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right out take care of yourself are you
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okay I wish I look like that if I look
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like that I'd be
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president thank you
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thank thank
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you see you in January
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[Music]
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okay were you expecting
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that do you know who that was
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do Ben P the
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[Music]
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ribbon oh made out try
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trying this just shows the the true
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nature of all this
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I think it's just a really beautiful
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thing yeah there it is you know that one
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you show him the Dan remember with the
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hand he used to do it he used to do it
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one time for
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them y
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[Music]
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tonight the high stake Showdown here in
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Philadelphia between vice president
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kamla Harris and former president Donald
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Trump let us be clear the deck will be
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stacked against former president Trump
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this debate will not be fair everybody
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has an opinion as to what and how Donald
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Trump should handle tonight we know KLA
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wanted the open mic be aggressive don't
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be aggressive be nice don't be nice she
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was trying to make sure that all the
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mics were open they wanted to be seated
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and they wanted your mic hot ultimately
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they decided the mics would be muted the
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mics are muted but who's the muter these
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are the ground rules this was Joe bid no
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one even heard of these rules these were
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the ridiculous rules and Trump said I'll
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give you anything that can there have
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been some assurances offered to the
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Harris campaign about how the network
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would handle any moments of significant
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cross talk
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[Music]
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hey guys hello how are you
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hello thank you hello hi I'm Olivia J
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nice to meet you with ABC I'm going to
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be with you guys while okay perfect um
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we're going to take you this no
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I good to meet you to meet are you um
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yes uh your your name was Olivia Olivia
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yeah it sounds really crazy but like you
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can't walk around here without anyc
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person okay so if you guys need to go
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anywhere North Korea I've been there
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too might say worse sorry no offense we
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tryk
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also sh us around
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okay thank you very much love
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you status of your group
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check in so there's three of you guys
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coming three of us
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three escort
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status it's it's one photographer and
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and Mick
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and it's it's actually a video
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producer okay so we can actually go this
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way you guys go down to do
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what you guys good
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yeah you guys wait right here I'll get
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to get our escort all your es J hello
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I'm Bri hello I'm Nathan Nathan nice to
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see you hi Justin nice to see you I'm
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brid hey Mick I'm brid ni to see you oh
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no worries no worries let me just make
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sure they're done striking the set they
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were moving some equipment around can
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you give me just a second of course okay
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perfect thank you so you're shooting
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Stills and video yes cool
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yesing EX
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very intimate small room too high Dennis
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debate is 2 hours
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away sir yeah
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I'm speaking to the camera it's camera
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number five so what do you think I
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should be should I talk it's more
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comfortable answering the question to
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them you have a message for the American
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people is that is that
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the what happens if 10 seconds long will
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it be cut up no we
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don't okay so
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so visit
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Del no touch out no tou no tou no oh
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have we to that yes we have oh that's
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good I like that but why uh we felt sh
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to both PS that
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way are we allow to write notes to
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ourselves yours oh so I could stay here
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if you wanted to or or I could take the
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pant there
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yep open please is it open one two one 2
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 so
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that's what I'll be hearing
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green is I
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want but I'm not I'm on yellow but
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that's just to tell me I'm finishing but
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green means I'm on yes right that's the
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key actually you'll see you'll see green
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when she's speaking as well so
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that's it's not an indicator the M
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there's no the mic on when the mics are
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the mic
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are oh okay good turn on the way I
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normally done it is I will see that more
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ises up but we're going to go a little
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bit less
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for Sarah yes are they going to be
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directing me or will I just respond to
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her okay will they always say that my
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time is running out my time is running
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out I have because otherwise I'm not
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going to know they will they will
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absolutely so they'll always direct me
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to speak thank you Mr thank you and
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they'll thank her thank you and then
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they'll ask and so when my time is up
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and I finish my statement my mic will be
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cut right and they'll say thank you and
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they'll ask a question person so we have
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to and when you your mics will be
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open I know if you not when you're not
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asking questions your mics will be open
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so
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just so the mics will be open for okay
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stage when there asking me question
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shouldn't I be talking to him instead of
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looking up up I think it would look
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better on television if I'm speaking to
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it doesn't look real when you're looking
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over someone thank you very much
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congratulations
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S I think you're going have a big show
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see
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soon
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thanks tonight the high Stak Showdown
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here in Philadelphia between we Uber
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Eats this uh little stream deck whatever
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you want to call it got here with about
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15 minutes to spare so let's now welcome
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the cand to the stage think it's
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happen audio coming through that's how
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it's done good evening we are looking
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forward to a spirited and thoughtful
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debate but her vice presidential pick
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says abortion in the 9th month is
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absolutely fine there is no state in
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this country where it is legal to kill a
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baby Madam vice president want to get
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your response he will sign a National
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Abortion ban thank you vice president
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Harris there she goes again it's a lie
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I'm not signing a ban and there's no
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reason to sign a ban because and as you
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rightly mentioned
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notion B but it doesn't matter because
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this issue has now been taken over by
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this and that is not happening it's
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insult president excuse me I have to
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respond a lot of issues Mr President why
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do you believe it's appropriate to weigh
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in on the racial identity of your
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opponent I don't and I don't care I
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don't care what she is I don't care
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uh joh Olivia I
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have and Jason would like to
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right he told us there have been no
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credible reports of a good thing to say
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for a city manager again spri city
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manager they want to right now I'm toak
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up the FBI says overall violent crime is
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actually coming down on this country but
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excuse me the FBI defraud they were
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defrauding statements they they didn't
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include the worst cities I want to talk
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about the peaceful transfer of power
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which of course we all know it's a
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Cornerstone of our democracy and the
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role of a president uh in a moment of
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crisis is there anything you regret
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about what you did on that
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day we
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are years we are trying we should just
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point out here as clarification and you
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know this you and your allies if I could
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just get a yes or no because you're
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running me J
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[Music]
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van why don't you ask that question
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anything you reget about what you many
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judges Jud nothing to do with that other
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than they asked me to make a speech that
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story has been as you would say debunked
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it was debunked in almost every
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newspaper but they still bring it up
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there are several issues we've been
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trying to get several issues yes we are
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working are you now acknowledging that
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you lost in 202 acknowledge Ed I said
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that sarcastically you know that I
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didn't detect the sarcasm president
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Harris thank you vice president Harris
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president Harris thank you VI president
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Harris thank you and that is our ABC
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News
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pres never spoken we are trying
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who all of the staff is going to leave
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out of your side so you need to get them
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and esort them and Trump is coming back
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this
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[Music]
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way okay copy I think he's just going to
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walk out with the staff and I'll just
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walk out with
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them go go go go yes just get staff
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three to the spin thank you if you go
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and we go we're not going to have time
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to load all this out go with Mickey
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right now and tell him to figure out a
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car just go leave this here and go go
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going to exit any minute through the
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front
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door
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yeah jumping in the motorc he's going to
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go with the spin
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uh we just got off of an incredible
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debate Trump was debating
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3v1 you know that's what happens when
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the unfair media decides to put on a
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debate the the story they're going to
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try to spin CU You' got all the momentum
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right now is she stopped the moment it's
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[ __ ] no think kill I don't think
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that anybody does a [ __ ] I think they
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killed her and I think the idea I'm
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getting I'm getting fall from
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Congressman saying the best
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[Music]
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de I think that the way people hear
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analyze it the way real very very diff
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yeah I thought it was the best we love
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you man thanks
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Mar yeah I assume the moderators would
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be bad because that right there is the
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worst of all the news networks in my
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opinion but it basically was three onone
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now she wants to do another one one cuz
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she got beaten tonight but I don't know
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if we're going
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to what was your assessment of the
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debate Mr President I thought it was a
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great debate I thought it was my best
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performance actually but I don't even
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view it as a performance you were
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corrected five times by the moderators
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har which is ridiculous and incorrectly
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corrected no the moderators look this is
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and I said it this is the worst of all
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the networks of all the various networks
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that we deal with I think ABC is the
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worst but despite that you know it was a
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great
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you We complain about the media
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sometimes it gets people find it TR but
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tonight we saw the reason why right it
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was a three-on-one performance I thought
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the the male moderator David Mir his his
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performance if you're to call it tonight
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was a bit of a farce figting a fact
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check of one candidate without actually
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even appearance he he didn't even care
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about the appearance of fact checking
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the other sometimes you see with
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reporters they care about the appearance
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of balance tonight this guy didn't even
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care about that appearance and so I
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think that that was probably one of the
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more Salient but unsurprising parts of
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the night but I do think voters are
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smart enough and capable enough to see
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through
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that smoke screen you know they've been
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tricked before I don't think they're
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ready to be tricked again thanks yeah
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good see you
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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guys where's the kind Mega house want
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to I was
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Aang what's up baby how we doing hey man
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like working out for a football game
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right put me in coach I'm ready to go
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[Applause]
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USA us
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[Applause]
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us that went well that's the
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biggest biggest huh how are you nice to
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see you look good huh
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[Applause]
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right here with President Trump and
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basically what I would call The Avengers
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of the Alabama political Universe you've
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got Katie Britt whose husband played at
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Alabama you got Senator tuberville you
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got Senator D's all over the place here
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you believe this
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game what's going on with the game I
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don't know what they're doing with the
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kickoff return in the NFL and I don't
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want to get involved in controversy of
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course but it looks so bad and I noticed
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they haven't done that in
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college you're better than anybody
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what's going on with your
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team one thing that we got to remember
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this we're in this world together and I
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think one of the problem that I think
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people are losing sight of is who's best
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to represent this country well who's
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best to represent this country is
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President Trump we've seen what uh Miss
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Harris has done the vice president we've
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seen what she's done she had 3 years to
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show it and she hasn't shown it
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yet I was playing the best SCF of my
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life can you believe it but I don't know
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if I'm going to be able to play anymore
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well you're not going to be able to
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give look look look at a fanny pack this
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is
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dedication you let me know when we're
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ready here when is it 1 minute till
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jumbo 1 minute one
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minute here we
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go there you
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[Applause]
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are he has got I don't think his staff
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gets enough credit
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because I think he's got one of the best
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teams out there I want you to start
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telling everybody here very politely to
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take a few steps back against the wall
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so we can open up some room here you
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bring them and you put them over here so
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we can get people with eyes view of the
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Pres they bust their ass they work all
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the time no let Dy and Kid Rock and Hank
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do their thing I want to get these
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congressionals in here the amount of
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organization that's required to get
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these things done um it blows my mind
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bossy crew first then congrat now thank
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you it's going to be a little difficult
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to coordinate cycling them in and out CH
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we make anything happen around here I
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guess there has never been energy like
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there is now but this is really big time
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football and it's great to see
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appreciate the time thank you very much
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thank you dig get nice front page in the
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New York
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Times worth it I watch the game
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now we just need some sort of relief
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lighting that's problem how many people
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are there you have 46 oh that's a lot it
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sounds like a lot we had 80 in Phoenix
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and they looking at you and then his
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photos are [ __ ] up so go under him
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like this all right tickle his belly
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there's the reason why you're holding it
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there is so that they look at my camera
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and not their phone they'll look at
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their phone and every photo is Ru so
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I'll grab it from them and then I'll
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give it to you I'll confirm their name
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I'll hand you the phone and then you'll
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take the photo and then just cuz they're
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coming right back out this way so just
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hand it back on the way out I don't
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next Amy Bradley is a fantastic young
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woman she's running for State bre she
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has my complete total endorsement she is
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far better than her opponent who we all
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know is not
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[Music]
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good I'm that money I no you're good I
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was in trouble just come to say hello
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make sure you were here I'm Italian
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Catholic I've always think I'm in
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trouble is that Cath
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tomorrow morning we're going to announce
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Butler we're going back to
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Butler and we're going to go back in
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October we're all set up and we're the
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people are fantastic in Butler it's a
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big it's a great area great these are
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incredible people at the same place same
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place same stage location same effort
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right for our PTSD
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ready guys go take to
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ro you remember Shannon right I your
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daughter yeah yeah great I remember from
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the store too well you were a witness
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she you weren't with her right oh she
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was underneath me I laid on top of her
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you mean to protect her and then
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Michelle your Advanced guy laid on top
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of me and we were right next to them
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yeah you were right next to you mean so
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you were in the pile we were right next
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to them when they went down Secret
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Service jumped on top of them we were
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rolling the whole time but this guy's
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great I'll bet he has footage that
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probably Nobody seen before nobody's
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seen him yes sir I was a terrible
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terrible thing but there was a lot of
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Bravery with Secret Service the way they
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jumped on top etc etc bullets are flying
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all over the place a lot of people would
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have said I'll I'll take a pass normally
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they'd be running you didn't have
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anybody flee you didn't have anybody
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Stampede nobody and there was some
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people behind me they stood up and
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they're looking like you know I mean I
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tell you want to have you want to have
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them in a all with you I want to meet
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some of those people that thumbs up
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there you
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beautiful thank Youk you very much thank
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you yeah I like the blue hat huh I was
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right behind you at Butler I was right
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behind you at Butler oh you were sitting
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right behind pick my picture yes yes
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yeah okay yeah I know I saw you behind
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me over my right shoulder she was with
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me over my right shoulder I know that
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yeah that was me yep I saw you there
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come on let's take another one we got
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make sure we got a good
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one there was a lot of Bravery that day
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I'm not talking about me I'm talking
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about the people nobody ran you know I
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have now they ran to you and she wasn't
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playing I can tell you know what I want
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to make sure you were okay thank you
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darl she didn't move who is the guy on
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your left with the floppy hat that one
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guy he's looking the bullets are flying
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he wasn't worried about getting
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[Music]
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hit the folks in the bleachers at Butler
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rally he's here to meet guy right behind
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yes sir you were the greatest the black
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and the green hat oh you are the
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greatest thank you sir this guy had more
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guts he was up there looking looking hi
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Jeffrey come here we love you we love
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you wife loves you you're famous
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guy
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[Music]
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watch I've been around gun aot I was
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my
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mind oh
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[Music]
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yeah the audience right near
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okay I have to give the Secret Service
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sniper they call them or Sharpshooter
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but sniper because he didn't know there
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was a problem how about the one shot by
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the
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[Music]
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he was able to pick it all out within 5
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seconds and he used one bullet from very
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far away I guess probably about 400
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yards that was a long shot too you if
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that didn't happen You' get a lot of
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dead people that guy didn't care he was
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ready to go he was really that's why he
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stopped that's why he stopped with the
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bullets they rush rush
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two
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guys abely thank God behind a tree
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through a tree through a tree that was
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some [ __ ] and if he if he didn't do that
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a lot more people could have been badly
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hurt and killed crazy pretty crazy thank
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you sir you know what that means right
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Selena some there's somebody up there oh
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somebody help me oh yeah absolutely and
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by the way the second one one of the
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odds that one of these great guys is
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walking down the fair when he sees a gun
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that's 10 ft long but yeah but you only
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see like a little bit sticking out and
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he sees it and he starts shooting we're
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going to
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be we're going to be back going back get
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his
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number is my
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gu% you mind
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do a lot of ready guys thank you
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sir there's somebody up there somebody's
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up there big believer so am I oh I am a
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big believer so am I thank you sir honey
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enjoy it okay okay thank you sir have a
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great waiting 20 minutes because of
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Selena I did it for her
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daughter we're going to invite him I
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want to invite him well
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Butler I will
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be make sure get
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that
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come face
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looking the guy that was looking you
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look you know the I love this
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guy the hell with these things they're
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boring very boring he stood up he didn't
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care about the bullets he was staying
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all he wanted to do is find that guy he
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said there's a guy over there and you
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had some other people too we appreciate
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it thank you very much great honor thank
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you as I was saying
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in 48 hours the president returns to
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Butler whaty sural being back here I
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mean how many people do you know that go
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right back to the same place where
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somebody took a shot at him I felt we
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had an obligation to Cory to come back
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here this is now a monument to the
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sacrifice of a devoted father the true
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test of someone's character is how they
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behave Under Fire fight fight fight vote
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v v thank you
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