John Wimber: False Teacher? - Charismania - Episode 191 William Branham Historical Research Podcast

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John invites Cynthia Artish to kick off a new series on "Charismania," starting with the research into John Wimber and his influence on Charismatic Christianity. We dive into the intersections between William Branham's religious movement and its influence on other groups like the International House of Prayer (IHOP) and John Wimber's role in shaping modern charismatic movements. Cynthia shares her personal experiences as a musician playing for John Wimber's band, offering insight into Wimber’s character and the cult of personality that developed around him. The conversation explores key themes such as indoctrination, manipulation of emotions in religious settings, and the blending of church and business models in evangelicalism. We also critically analyze how Wimber's theology influenced contemporary movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), pointing to dangerous deviations from traditional Christian teaching.

Another major point of discussion is the emotional manipulation tactics often seen in both cultic and charismatic movements. The speakers emphasize the importance of biblical literacy and historical theology in understanding these deviations, cautioning against following leaders who prioritize personal experience over scripture. Cynthia’s anecdotes provide a first-hand perspective on the Vineyard movement’s musical and spiritual practices, while the host, John Collins, links these observations to broader patterns of control and deception in modern Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, specifically within groups that emerged from the Latter Rain Revival.

00:00 Introduction
00:31 Guest Introduction: Cynthia and Her Connection to John Wimber
01:47 Evolution of Research into Branhamism and IHOP
03:35 Investigating John Wimber’s Influence and the IHOP Connection
05:04 Cynthia’s Background in the Vineyard and Fuller Seminary
07:13 Reflections on Music, Entertainment, and Spiritual Manipulation
10:03 John Wimber’s Teachings and Emotional Manipulation in Worship
12:08 Balancing Emotionalism with Scriptural Faithfulness
14:48 Historical Context: Lonnie Frisbee and the Vineyard Movement
18:04 The Sin of Presumption and the Danger of Wimber’s Teachings
20:40 The Evolution of Kingdom Theology and Dominionism
22:16 Teaching curriculum
21:28 Peter Wagner, Fuller Professor Church Growth
22:28 Franchising Religion
24:58 John Wimber’s Focus on “Doing the Works of the Kingdom”
27:26 Distinctions Between True Christianity and Cultic Movements
30:42 Indoctrination and Variance Between Teachings and Scripture
34:14 2 Peter describes the true church + false teachers
34:54 The Business of Evangelicalism and Church Franchising
35:10 2 Peter 3 explains the serious consequences of false teaching
36:44 Celebrity Pastors build their own kingdoms
37:11 Jesus declares His Kingdom is not of this world
40:57 Reflections on Apologetics and Cults of Personality
41:37 Bad theology: the root of moral and idolatrous sin
44:02 John Wimber’s Legacy and Influence on the NAR
45:43 “Cult” = human culture related to redemptive history
47:56 Exploring the Historical Roots of Modern Apostasy
50:05 All false teachers use the same playbook
52:04 Closing Thoughts on the Future of Evangelicalism
58:10 Only 2 Religions: by Man or by God
1:00:13 Idolatry and works-based religion is Roman by design
1:02:27 Wimber’s “works of the kingdom” is opposite to the biblical Gospel of salvation
1:04:57 The Moses Model and Church Leadership Structures
1:09:41 The Challenges of Religious Freedom and False Teachings
1:13:48 The Role of Christ in Counteracting Religious Manipulation
1:18:28 Final Reflections on John Wimber and the Modern Church

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