Donald Trump as a human being - interview on the Theo Von Show...

Donald Trump is currently running for President of the United States representing the Republican Party. He previously served as America’s 45th president from 2017-2021, and is also a businessman and media personality.

Theo joins Mr. Trump at his country club in Bedminster, New Jersey to discuss reforming healthcare, border security, his friendship with Dana White and why he refrains from drinking and smoking.

Donald Trump: / realdonaldtrump

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know my uh ninth grade civics teacher Barbara Olinger um would be tickled to know that
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one of her students is getting to sit down uh with a president today um so I
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just want to speak her name um she taught me to care about our country uh
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and I still do today's guest uh is the 45th president of the United States of
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America and he's currently running for president on the Republican ticket he's
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been an entrepreneur um a businessman a television personality we sat down at his Club in
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Bedminster New Jersey and we want to thank the crew there uh for helping us
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make the production happen he's one of the most famous people on Earth and I'm
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grateful for this chance to learn more about the man behind the headlines today's guest is Donald Trump shine that
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light on me I'll sit and tell you my
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stor shine on me and I will find a song I will singing
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but your thing is going really great my son's a big fan of you as Baron really Baron is yeah oh nice he just graduated
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uh High School right that's right he just did he he knows you very well he said dad he's Big W you're a big one
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that's cool that's well that's that's where it is nowadays right yeah well it's interesting you know yeah I can't
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believe that um we're able to get platforms and we I started in my kitchen and then
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yettis evolved out of there that's fantastic I mean it's pretty unbelievable what um does Baron you want
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to start you go ahead yeah we're good are we rolling yeah sure good yeah does um yeah does Baron play sports or
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anything he does he plays golf and uh different sports soccer loves soccer very good at soccer uh he's a good
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athlete Baron yeah is he gonna go has he already picked a college or now he has and he's uh getting set to go in the
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fall good college a very good one and he was always a very good student he's smart smart guy which one of yeah
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like which one of your kids like yeah what's something you admire about each one of your sons well Don is a hunter he's a great
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great Hunter and knows everything about that world and guns and all he was the
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first one that said dad boy you got lucky because I didn't realize that 130
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yards is actually very close in that parlament and uh he said you got lucky
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he knew immediately when he saw that he said it's incredible because that's considered a pretty close distance from
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how far the shooter was yeah oh yeah and the guy wasn't a bad shooter supposedly you know was a very disturbed guy but he
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wasn't a bad shooter and Eric likewise uh he loves the business he loves real
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estate also very much of a hunter and understands a lot of things about that they were sort of as young guys they
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were with there Grand father and he would take them hunting in Czechoslovakia and somehow they
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developed very well and uh Czechoslovakia D can you imagine a lot of letters even that's a long time
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that's the name you don't hear too much anymore but it was uh I'd need a scope just to get through the spelling of that word a lot of people a lot of people but
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uh so he'd go they'd spend time in Europe and they do that that's where he learned a lot about both of them really
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good uh with your dad they would go no uh grandfather I actually the the uh
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they had a grandfather who was a wonderful uh Outdoorsman and athlete and
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during the summer he'd take them out into the woods and they'd go hunting and lots of things and they loved it they got to love it and that's Don and that's
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Eric yeah they're funny oh yeah they have a good sense of humor too like whenever I see them at UFC it's like
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yeah right yeah I just like the first time I was nervous I think and then after that when I've seen him it's like
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it's fun to kind of cut up with a little bit yeah well they're they're good uh they're good guys and they they really
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uh they get along great with the rest of the family we all get along great we have a good family and but I love you I
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we you talk about a great guy how about Dana White good job he does right yeah I
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yeah I want to thank Danny too for helping uh get us set up together yeah he makes it happen I like Danny he's um
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he's uh he doesn't waste words he doesn't waste time he likes to I think be efficient and um he likes he has a
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seems like a strong sense of Integrity for himself yeah nobody like him actually it's h you know there's an
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expression that everybody is uh replaceable not Dana nobody could do
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what he does and he's made that sport into a big monster sport yeah and it's interesting and we go there and we enjoy
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it go with him sometimes we do Walk-Ons with Dana and place sort of likes it oh
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yeah I've been there there a video of us I was in behind you in one um one video
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I'm sure the dogs here will pull it up um but yeah those are some of my favorite those are some of my favorite
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things ever it became UFC became my favorite sport during the pandemic because Dana was brave enough to stay open you know he was it he was the whole
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ball game he was the only Sport and he uh he' open up in arenas with nothing other than very good Fighters yeah and
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they would be fight he had some of the best fights during the pandemic yeah but he it was exceptional there it is right
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there see look there you are and I'm right behind you there slapping with that hat on a white guy in the Hat that's great that's right the white guy
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in the Hat is right that's great yeah I mean there's a lot of us there but I was one of them for sure that's right um yeah see that's me right there good
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sport isn't it huh yeah I'm a Dustin porier fan so oh he's great he was Boy tell he's a warrior that last fight he
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had whether you like it or not he is a warrior yeah yeah it felt like he didn't
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get the he didn't get the victory but it didn't feel like he lost no he didn't lose that fight he he really the man he was fighting was tough
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he was tough and didn't expect that same fight but he often times will he he
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makes people suffer there's no question about no he's all he's all he's a pro he's a professional he's all heart he's
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from Louisiana that's where I'm from as that fight went along he just got stronger and stronger and he was getting
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pounded and he was going to be choked out about four different times and he just wouldn't let it happen no you say
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hello to him he's good yeah I'll make sure to he's a really great fighter there and he cooks Thanksgiving dinner every year oh wow maybe I'll have to go
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sometime oh yeah I mean he he must do good food he does yeah he does some good stuff over there there um yeah what was
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the first do you remember like the first fight that you ever went to whether it was it was UFC or boxing or anything yeah I do um it was uh Joe Frasier
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Muhammad Ali in Madison Square Garden many many years ago and I think that was the first fight
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I went to I liked I always like the boxing how old were you remember oh boy I don't know you can deduct it from what
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I am now but it was a long time ago but they were two undefeated Fighters they were both undefeated
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uh Muhammad became a friend ofman so did Joe jolton Joe uh he was uh they were
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two great Fighters that that fight was incredible I think they had like many heart attacks that night literally heart
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attacks in Madison Square Garden I think it was Madison Square Garden and the
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fight was so unbelievable two undefeated heavyweight champions of the world there was no UFC and there was no competition
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really it was it yeah and so you had the two guys remember that Muhammad wasn't allowed to fight because of lots of
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different things and uh he was a terrific guy both terrific guys very
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they finally made it happen they finally they made happen they had two undefeated heavyweight champions fighting and who took you to the fight you remember I
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went with my father and my brother Robert and uh it was just I don't know I
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must have been very young it was a long time ago but W you would never forget it that was one of those moments oh yeah
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but no literally there were like many heart attacks in the arena there people having too much fun or what do you think
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drugs having heart attacks because it was such a crazy event it was so the
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people were just I know a friend of mine father he went uh he had a bad heart
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attack literally they took him out they were taking people out it's early and I don't hear that anymore I mean there
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were other exciting sporting I don't think there's ever been I don't know I I guess that but you would think Joe
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frasia Muhammad Ali their first fight but it was a very exciting yeah and just people being I guess yeah sometimes our
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systems aren't ready to handle the amount of excitement that's going on you know like I think like yeah maybe people
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just couldn't even handle so much joy you think like you think it was that people were just so excited they had
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heart attacks I mean they just had I guess they do it maybe Super Bowls or something oh people have heart attacks
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eating a thick soup you know so it's like I'm not surprised that something so awesome like that would make your heart
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be like yeah I'm out yeah but I never hear of it you know it happens just that
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one but uh we had an exciting event the other night with Elon Elon mus and me I
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listen we had a pretty big audience for that one I can tell you yeah I listened for probably about like 20 minutes I
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thought it was cool it was I think the tough part was just like uh the just like it would have been neat if you guys
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could have been in the same spot you know but I still thought it was I heard the audio was great and actually they
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put out a clear tape of it cuz they had clear tape oh nice they had so many millions and millions of people watching
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like record numbers of people and I'm trying to figure out we're on a cell phone or I was and you know that's a lot
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of people coming into a cell phone one way or the other yeah but I heard some people had a problem with the Audio I
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don't know I don't do that thing you know that was done and and uh we had a great conversation it was for two hours
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and 15 minutes they just put out a clear tape of it a perfect tape of it uh but I
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sounded I think I sounded somebody said uh you're voice was distorted or
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something and and you know I guess it happens look that was such a big thing such a big audio but I would have I
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would have loved to have seen the clear tape originally they put it out right after the show so now it's a clear tape
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where a perfect tape done there yeah but when it goes through different phone systems and everything else uh you think
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if we were together that doesn't happen then because I think his voice was more clear than yeah maybe because he was the
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one who who was like initiating the call I'm not sure yeah I'm not sure about how how that works but yeah I know that in
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post a lot of times they can tighten things up and make it better you know I um yeah it's amazing how Elon like the
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cost to have really have your own voice in the world is $44 billion basically
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well if you want to have your voice like you know what I'm saying he has his own like he has his own channel and he does
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what he wants to do and he's a fantastic guy and he's a brilliant person and the
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country should be very proud of him actually I have truth which has been very successful
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uh true social you true social yeah and that's uh been very successful in getting my voice out well I needed a
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voice because you know I was on Twitter and I was on uh Instagram I was on all
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of it and uh I was on Facebook and when you added it up I had I I was told by uh
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Zuckerberg and others it was like record setting type of numbers and then one day
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I didn't have anything because they cancelled I mean they cancelled and it's such a usion there right yeah it was it
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was a pretty bad thing and so I had nothing so after about a month you don't have a lot of things to say and after
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about a month I said you know what I'm going to do I'm going to just go out and put out an old public relations statement you you remember that and
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although you're a little young to see it but in the old days you'd put out a statement and I did and it was just
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gobbled up it was really gobbled up and I open truth and truth has become terrific actually for me platform I
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really want just as a platform I mean it's more important then anything else and well at least you have your voice then you can say what you want to say my
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voice back yeah I had hundreds of millions of people even now I haven't
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been too active on X but uh I have I guess 90 some odd million people on it
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and but I was much higher than that when I was all the people I don't mean how many people there are yeah I mean it's
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been but I I love the job he's done and he's brought a certain voice back into
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into play yeah the previous people were ter terrible terrible every time you do a thing you'd be red flagged they'd put
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up a red FL every statement you made you'd be red flagged yeah they just it's almost like yeah it's like um when you
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have a babysitter and they don't want to have any fun or whatever yeah yeah that's kind of the vibe I got when you
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um yeah I see yeah because I see you at the at the fights I see you sometimes you'll sit right by Dana and sometimes
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I'll sit yeah like me I'll go with like David Spade sometimes as a close friend of mine good and um yeah see you coming
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with Kid Rock and um yeah you don't drink at the fights kid no kid rock is
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uh he's terrific he came to the convention he knocked him he knocked everybody out he was Fant he's a great
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guy he's just a great guy he's he's popular very popular oh he's so he's definitely he's a real dirt serpent too
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dude he's freaking Legend you know he's he's a legend he is a legend I guess in a true sense oh 100% people love him
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dude look at him I went to his show not long ago somewhere and um people I think
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some guy had a heart attack there too but it was like it was more funnel cake related I think type of Vibes um he
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draws big crowds actually it's amazing I saw one he was out uh someplace recently
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at 880,000 people he's he's big stuff but he's really forget about that I call
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him Bob you know his name Bob right it's Bob Kid Rock but it's Bob but he's a a
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really good guy and a cool cat right yeah oh yeah I I mean I live in natural
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right when I got in in in a town he um yeah he hit me up one night and was like
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hey man I'm having a a birthday party this weekend and you should come and I didn't even know him you know and it was nice of him and since then we've done a
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lot of fun stuff together his brother's missing a leg too which is crazy he looks like the lamp have you ever seen
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that movie the lamp like from like a Christmas story or whatever I don't know but he's fantastic the family the father
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I knew very well he just passed away and it was tough one you knew his dad for the brother I did and he was he was
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fantastic I got to know him through knowing Bob and I tell you what it's just a fantastic
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family the whole family no I love Bob he and I joke around together a lot we've spent a lot of time together look at his
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brother right there that's right dud and you know what he plays golf and he plays well he uh he hit a perfect drive with
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me he I said do you play we were in the 17th hole I said do you play he goes yes
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I said oh really do you want to hit a shot and he said okay and he got up well
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it was very hard for him to put the I mean it was really a tough situation because he has to get the ball in the ground and the tee and everything else
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nobody did it for him and he did it I mean he goes to the ground and he did it gets up he swung and I'm a good golfer
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he had a perfect shot out to the right with a little hook nobody knows what that means in your audience probably but
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that's like a perfect shot and I said that is perfect he said I'll do it again I said don't do it
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again cuz you'll never be able to hit a shot that good and it was really amazing he's he's great and and and Bob really
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do it again too aend they really have an amazing family they love Bob's great I I've been to
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parties at his house you know one thing that's really nice about him is I'll go do something with him and then like a
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few days later he'll send a nice note or he'll send like a photo like a frame photo and just say hey man I had a nice
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time um yeah yeah I noticed at the events you don't drink and you don't drink or smoke right I don't drink or
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smoke you never have no I never have I've uh I had a great uh brother who
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taught me a lesson Don't drink don't drink and he said don't smoke he smoked and he drank and he was great guy he was
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a handsome very handsome guy is he older he was older old quite a bit older yeah
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and uh he would uh he had a problem with alcohol and smoke a lot but you I tell
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people no drugs no drinking no cigarettes yeah I tell that there my kids all the time I'd say no drugs no
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drinking no smok and uh it was tough well he'd always tell me he'd say never
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so he was uh you know really old enough
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that you would look up to somebody and I'd look up to him anyway did you admire him yeah I I admired a lot so much about
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him he he had so much going had the look uh he had unbelievable personality like
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a an incredible personality what was his name Donald his name was Fred Fred Trump and he had a problem with alcohol
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he got got addicted to it because it's and you know they say alcohol is tougher than drugs to get off of I've I don't
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know if you've ever heard that I was recovery actually I've been in I've been in recovery so like most of the last 10
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years from alcohol from drugs and alcohol drugs which which is worse for me drugs is the problem but if I have a
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drink then I it's tougher for me to prevent myself from getting it it sets off a chain yeah but is which is harder
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to quit I've heard alcohol is harder to quit than drugs if that makes sense I don't know oh yeah I mean I can only
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imagine cuz it's probably more readily available more readily well and it's social and you're sitting and everyone's drinking and all yeah you go to a dinner
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and everybody's eating like you know Xanaxes or something you know for appetizers usually people are having
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like a mint you know a mint Jep or something a little fancier Negron I just learned about right um but yeah so you
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have a problem with that then yeah oh wow I've it's been in my family my family it's like um yeah can you can you
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stay away from perid yeah I've done a good job I mean I so how long have you been off I go to recovery meetings I've
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been off most recently two a little over two years do you ever go back on yeah I've had stance where I go back on and
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um and and you don't control it uh it's tough it gets it goes down here pretty quick kidding so you you think it's
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going to be easy you think you're controlling it and then you're damn yeah you're doing your go-kart and racing
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with hookers and stuff it gets bad just not to do it right right so then in the end you're like I have to not do it did
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you see like with your brother did you could you see it or any like yeah man I
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was amazed because he he had so much going he had everything going I think he
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probably it happened in college at a fraternity maybe or I don't know
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somewhere along the line it happened and all of a sudden you know this is not unique this is a very common story
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unfortunately but uh and then the family would say it and start to notice it
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and uh it didn't get better it didn't get better I was was amazed you know he
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lived uh for so long in bad conditions you know in in terms of I was amazed that his body could hold out it held out
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and it'd had bad moments and but his body was unbelievably strong that it could that
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it could withstand this yeah it's a body is so resilient do you remember the last time that you saw him or spent with him
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I do and uh I'm sorry to ask about it yeah no it's well you know the reason
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it's good talking about it is it might help other people if it helps one other person it's worth a conversation for we
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talk about that stuff a lot on our on our podcast yeah a lot of our audience uh struggles or has struggled with um
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alcoholism addiction animacy disorders all types of stuff you know so it's like
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a it's pretty kind of normal conversation but um you know the interesting thing is and I tell people
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so I never had a cigarette and I've never had a glass of alcohol and my brother was incredible he would tell me
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cuz he knew he had a problem and it say don't ever drink don't ever smoke he'd always add smoking because he
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did smoke a lot which is you know not very healthy but he'd say don't ever
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drink don't ever drink he'd tell me every time I said don't ever drink because he knew he had this yeah addiction and I never had a glass of
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alcohol never ever did I have a glass of alcohol because of him and I would say
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that if I did drink I could you know conceivably be the type of Personality that would have like you that have a
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problem but I never had and and the only thing I say to people is if too late for the people that you're talking about but
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if you don't drink you don't miss it I mean I I I don't even think about alcohol or right it's not a part of your
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world I don't think about cigarettes I don't think about any of that if you if you don't take drugs or if you don't
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have alcohol it's real easy not to drink it it's one I had a friend who uh went
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to the Wharton School of Finance with me he was a very smart guy where is it Wharton School that's in Philadelphia
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that's at at pen oh yeah Rocky right and it's a great great school great business
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school and uh it's part of the University of Pennsylvania the business school nice down there yeah my friend's
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brother went there or something well he there then he was smart because it's a great school and um but this this person
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that I met he hated the taste of scotch hated it couldn't stand it but he
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insisted on having it because he wanted he felt it was important to be able to drink I said no just don't drink he said
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you know to be successful in business you have to sort of interact and you have to drink and I said don't do it
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anyway he became an unbelievable alcoholic uncontrollable alcoholic Oh I
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thought like one of the best yeah and he died he was a you know he but he hated the taste of scotch and he still and
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then he couldn't live without it wow literally well I think I noticed a lot of like in the recovery rooms and stuff
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it's a lot of people that have they're missing something inside of them and so they they take on like you know they
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want to try and fill it up with something else um yeah do you remember the last time that you spent with your brother I do and he'd have periods where
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he'd get sick very sick and we thought would' lose him or we lost him then he
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get better and that happened five or six times I mean well you thought you lost him and then he got better and it was
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amazing I mean it was you know certain very strong in that sense and I just tell people it's it's
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so tragic don't drink just don't drink yeah and you're not going to have a problem like even you if you didn't
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drink you would never but you probably maybe wouldn't be successful like you are you know it's part of your your story right it's helped me a lot yeah
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yeah cuz I don't know what would happen probably I think it's just too risky um it is risky what's something that you
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miss about him or like that yeah like what's something that you miss about him bred well he was wise in a sense I mean
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think of it he's got this problem and it was very important for him to convey to me not to have this problem and I
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couldn't have been successful if I had that problem yeah if I had that problem and and I think maybe I'm a personality
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type where I could have had the problem if I drank but if you don't drink you're never going to have it I mean I don't
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miss when I see somebody light up a cigarette and just they're in heaven uh I don't miss that at all it's
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weird it's so n it's very native American too is it crazy bizarre and you know I think sometimes our older
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brothers they kind of like they take the speed bumps for us like as younger brothers so that we don't have to you
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know what I'm saying does that you know what I'm talking about like my brother went through a lot of stuff so that I didn't have to go through it and then I
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get to see him and learn is he okay now yeah he's doing great now yeah he's doing great now but it's just it's like
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yeah that's one of the blessings I think of having an older brother is well you can learn through history too whether even if it's not a brother it's by
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watching other people I mean you can see if you have a friend who's an alcoholic or even just by reading about people you
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can learn oh yeah it doesn't necessarily have to be a brother but in this case it was very personal it was a brother and
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uh I learned not to drink and I learned not to smoke cigarettes now I don't know that I would have smoked cigarettes I
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probably would have drank I think you know there's no reason not to drink but I had a reason because he told me you
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know just that was it don't do it yeah yeah that was kind of a blessing then huh yeah and where did you did they um
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did you guys ever do anything fun together like one nice memory that you have with him um he had a great talent for flying he
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was a pilot oh sweet and he loved it and did you ever fly with him uh I did I flow with him he he was a great pilot
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and very talented other Pilots would come to his house to study with him
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watch him and he was really talented that but ultimately he had to give that because of the alcohol he had to give
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wildest thing to watch is people losing everything you know yeah no they lose everything and many many people and you
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in those days it wasn't drugs it wasn't like Don't drink don't take drugs I don't think drugs I don't even know were
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they're even a factor they happened pretty long time ago but I think in those days I don't think were drugs a
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factor you go back 25 years ago not like it is now well certainly not like now and yeah and that that actually takes me
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into something else I wanted to talk about like um alcoh alcoholism and addiction is something that's really
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ramped up like you're saying like in the past 20 30 years in our country right um and during the opioid epidemic um they
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estimate that like almost 600,000 people died yeah and and that doesn't even include the broken hearts and the deaths
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of families and um Circles of trust all you know just people that lost a brother
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doesn't even include the actual the the siblings right you know and so the ripple effect of that is huge um and and
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there's that there's that Sackler family that pretty much got away with it you know they had a a financial slap on the
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wrist but uh we're one of the only countries that allows um drug advertisements and far
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pharmaceutical companies to advertise on television like what do you think is are things that you can do um to help
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curtail that when you get in office so well we did a great job we had does that make sense or not question it does make
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sense and we had uh committees Blue Ribbon committees in certain cases but
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committees that would meet uh the big problem we have is you know fentol is
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probably the biggest opioid is bad opioid is bad too yeah I think that's
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bad because everyone thinks you know in many cases they think they're going to
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do away with pain and literally the time is so short if you take it for like two
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weeks you're almost addicted to it it's incredible when you oh the whole yeah all of that is horrible but why do how
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did you get addicted how how did no I would just do cocaine that was really yeah so just yeah that's down and that's
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down and dirty right yeah and this is yeah this I mean it was yeah but you don't anymore no I don't do it anymore
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man and I'm not doing it is it too much too much to handle some of the stuff started to get a real rattle in it too I
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don't know where it we were even getting it from in this country but yeah it started to make me feel like I was a
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mechanic or something so the thing you go back to then is alcohol for the most part right yeah but well what I want
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probably is cocaine but I know that if I have a drink then it'll give me it'll like be like okay well I had a drink
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then can do this is cocaine a stronger uh oh yeah up yeah yeah yeah cocaine so
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you're way up with cocaine more than anything else you can think of Caine will turn you into a damn owl homie you know what I'm saying it'll you'll be
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you'll be out on your own porch you know you'll you'll be your own Street Lamp you're freaking and is that a good
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feeling well it's a miserable feeling but you do it anyway just like the guy you're saying with the scotch like you
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did you didn't you knew it was bad but you still so it's not even good ing what
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would be normally the good time in other words oh well so why would you do it I wouldn't that's why I don't yeah that's
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that's terrible but it's crazy because that's what alcoholism is I think it's that it trumps the why it like it
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doesn't and it just you don't and you just go to it's like so that's why it's
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they say that it's um cunning baffling and Powerful that's what they say about alcoholism and it is it's it's um which
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is a bigger problem in our country would you say op oids o bigger than alcohol oh
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for sure I think it's that's one of the biggest problems like and compare that to fent andol oh yeah well that's the
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problem is people are making fake opioids because they can't afford real ones or they're just getting them off the street and then they put fentanyl in
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them yeah um fentanyl like laced into everything now it's horrible it's horrible yeah they found some in a baby
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rattle somewhere I think I don't even know where that was um but one of the things I was wanted to ask you about was
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like so there's like the big farma lobbyists like there's 1,800 uh big Pharma lobbyists in Washington DC
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right there's only 535 total uh representatives are Senators total so
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just the fact that there's this whole other almost drug government yeah that's there kind of pushing the you know
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pushing agendas and influencing things like how do we stop that man it just seems like it's obviously killing people
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like people are dying you know it's like what do we have to do that our own government won't help us
32:28
well you have to stop listening to lobbyists you know I was not a big person for lobbyists and if they have
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even even a little access to like a president or a senator or a congressman or woman uh snakes they get a lot of
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money yeah and in some cases they just take the money they don't do anything but uh you have a lot of lobbyists in
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Washington pushing and certainly a lot for the for all of the things that we're talking about including alcohol the
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lobbyists are winning it feels like yeah they're winning they're making a lot of money absolutely can you stop that can a
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can a president stop that like how do we stop that well one way you could stop it is to say if you're going to go into
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government you can never be a lobbyist uh in many cases they have rules and
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regulations where you can't do it for four years three years five years whatever you mean be a lobbyist after
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you were elected official I mean you could say you're saying you could say that you if you're an elected official
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or if you work in government you can never be a lobbyist you have people that
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work in government and they give out contracts to the military and then they leave and they work for them for the
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people that they're giving out contracts to that's exactly what happened with the Sackler family with the drug companies they hired people that were on the FDA
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to work for them so they could loophole the laws yeah you know but can we Outlaw
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lobbyists or we can't do that well there's a whole constitutional thing there and mean can you make somebody
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never ever go into the business if you're if you work for government and especially if you're giving out
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contracts in other words you're a powerful person within some industry the Navy the Army any you know anything it
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could be military procurement Etc uh there's a whole thing like there the whole question is to you give out a
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contract and then all of a sudden you're working for the person you gave out the contract to or the company that you gave
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out the contract to right it's like you're playing both sides in the net well it's and it's obviously a problem
34:21
and it's a big problem and we were doing things about it but then we had to get down to other business we had to solve some we had a lot of problems with this
34:29
country a lot of problems it's pretty clear that the establishment doesn't like you I would say what do you think
34:34
well I think the people like me oh yeah the people we're leading now in all the polls we're leading and rasm just came
34:40
out a little while rasmus's a very high highly regarded poll and we're leaving by like leading by Five Points Ras mus
34:47
pole and and others also and we're doing well but I think the people like me a
34:54
lot you know we won and then we no doubt so we won in 2016 and then we did much
34:59
better in 2020 much better got millions and millions more votes and uh why does
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the establishment keep trying to syn you like what is it that they are so afraid of well in some cases the things we're
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talking about right now they want to sell product that I'm not interested in they want to have certain boats and
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certain chips and certain planes and certain everything bought U Pharma is
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another one that's you know interesting or do they put push back against you you think uh yeah I think they do well uh
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yeah I think I think it's pretty obvious that they do in one way that's a positive thing politically because when
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you can show that they push back the voters seem to like it but we have a lot of a lot of popularity we have a lot of
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uh a lot of people that want to see me come back and win because we had a great time we had the greatest economy in
35:50
history when I was President we had oh yeah my got yeah we had the best job
35:56
numbers africanamerican Hispanic American if you look Asian-American job numbers women men
36:02
everybody we did a we did a lot of good things we cut we cut taxes more than anybody else including Ronald Reagan we
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uh cut regulations which created jobs we had a great period of time and I think the people want it back based on what
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I'm seeing the People Want it back one thing that you did um recently we had Bernie Sanders on right and interesting
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and I know that's very interesting certain um you guys don't agree on a lot of things but uh I think you both
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acknowledge how horribly rigged the Health Care system is against the American people um because hospitals and
36:38
insurance companies get away with hiding their prices from all of us and literally they can charge whatever they
36:45
want you know it's like you sign up and say yes I'll pay you trust the hospital but then you get home and the bill is
36:52
it's whatever you know which pretty much feels like some form of of extortion to me that's what it seems like
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for uh but you had an executive order where you created a federal rule forcing
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hospitals and insurers to publish all their prices yep right so that people would be able to know okay if an MRI
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costs $600 here and it's $55,000 there then I can go here and save myself money
37:16
but that hasn't even been enforced like um hospitals Biden Got Away With It hospitals and insurance companies
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they're not in they're still not showing their prices they hated it of course they did and because it would would have
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made it very competitive and Biden Let It Go he did he never enforced it and to get that approved was a big deal and
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that would have brought down the price of of you know oh so many things not only you know just care right Care
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physical Care Mental care that would have brought down the the cost of Care by 50 60% and Biden and Camala didn't
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press it it was a big thing to get it but I'll be pressing it and because I'll be pressing it yeah and because I'll be
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pressing it there are some people that are vehemently against it for financial reasons you know for money reasons but
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those people can go to hell dude that's insane yeah no they they bad people especially because one of the leading
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causes of bankruptcy in America is medical debt I mean it's well that's
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crazy and I don't even think I made that up either no it's uh when you think of it at first when you said it I said wow
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and then I'm thinking about it I'm say it's really not a wow I understand that yeah tremendous Lobby tremendous
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powerful Lobby well yeah cuz I mean think about what else is going to put you in medical like in in that much of a debt it's like I think that's I believe
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that that's accurate um who's beh who's behind the health
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care insurance that whole thing like who's behind it all it feels like Chuck
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Schumer is this kind of like deviant Mastermind back there somewhere well he's one of the people that is hurt and
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he's one of the people that keeps the prices is high and he's you know gets a lot of contributions from the people on
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the other side uh yeah and him and plenty of other people a lot of people it's a very powerful lobby but wouldn't
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they want you the most powerful Lobby the lawyer Lobby that's that's the and that feeds into that also you know it
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all feeds into it wait hold on just so I understand Donald sorry um so that uh
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that Lobby is a very powerful one yeah but why do those people want people to suffer though just so they can make
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money yeah czy yeah it really has to do with money that's crazy how much money
39:31
do they probably start off by saying this is terrible and then they eventually say wellow but can we just as a country say hey how much okay you need
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$3 million we'll give you that [ __ ] off yeah we want to be healthy yeah like can't we make a deal with those people
39:46
they're very tough to deal with and they've been taken care of by drug companies and others for years you know you have politicians that have been for
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years being taken care of by people that make a lot of money and they want to
39:59
keep making a lot of money and it is I mean in that case it's not a power thing it's a money thing yeah a lot of
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money um what are some of the other lobbies that are out there that we don't even know about well the most powerful
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Lobby is uh the lawyer Lobby I would say the teachers Lobby is important or
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powerful sometimes really to the detriment of everybody but the most powerful Lobby is probably the lawyers
40:24
who would think that right but they have they they that's why if you wanted to get rid of court cases and cut down
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litigation cost which in this country is out of control loser P what you do is
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you go loser pays in other words the loser of a lawsuit has to pay for the other side has to pay back all the money
40:44
the other side spent you think that would solve it yeah would get rid of 75
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80% of of the litigation we are a very litigious country it's under everything's under it's all bureaucratic
40:55
it's all B it's all dirty paperwork well if that would happen you'd get rid of a lot of it but the lawyers are
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opposed to it it will it probably will not happen no matter what because obviously the lawyers want to can do
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what would have to happen the Supreme Court would have to vote on something to make it happen I I don't know I think that maybe would have to go before The
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Supreme Court but the most powerful Lobby is that Lobby and if you wanted to get rid of litigation if you went and
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you know Europe has it a lot of places have it and different countries where loser pays if you sue somebody and you
41:31
lose you have to you have to pay the costs of the other side yeah that makes sense I think and what happens is people
41:38
don't Sue it's a tremendous difference but this country the lawyers are very
41:43
much opposed to it in this country it's too bad yeah man it's just pretty heartbreaking I feel like um there was a
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rumor that you almost had RFK Jr as a potential uh Vice
41:57
president no okay um just a rumor and did um I like him I've always liked him
42:03
but yeah I like him too he's Bobby and our friends he's a friend of mine I've known him for years's a good man yeah he's in that pitching it's tough It's a
42:10
two-party system and he's a third party you know it's a tough thing he can't get registered now in New York I see New
42:16
York and the Democrats have really opposed him vehemently I haven't but the Democrats have really opposed him so you
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think he should be allowed to run everywhere well the laws don't allow that okay and the laws don't allow
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unless you have 15 or 20% whatever it is they don't allow you to debate you don't have to debate so you can't get on the
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stage you can't and the debates are very important I mean I had a debate with Joe Biden oh yeah saw and that was a very
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meaningful that was a very consequential debate to put it mildly well yeah they
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they they they took the hand out of the puppet after that well they wanted to
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debate they gave me everything that I didn't want CNN and then they gave me uh Dana Bash
42:56
and Jake ER now remember this they were very straight during that debate I I
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have I gained a certain respect because U Jake Tapper who I call fake Tapper but
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I don't do that whole food I don't do that so much anymore you did uh but I
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thought they were very even-handed if you want to know the truth during the debate it I didn't feel like they like theer I didn't feel like they pushed lot
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they had certain pressure on them to be even-handed I think it's hard to not do that but they were very even-handed and
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uh it was a great debate but a very important debate well after that it seemed like suddenly everybody had been
43:33
like oh Biden's fine in America for like 18 months like my dad was really old
43:38
when I was born my dad was 70 when I was born right so I don't like seeing senior citizens get take advantage of right I
43:45
felt like that happened a lot when I was a kid and so I think for me it reflected on me like it made me really angry
43:51
because I was like I know this guy's not well it's not fair to pretend that he's well it's not fair to him because he
43:56
doesn't know you're pretending you know and it just seemed like the
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cruestv went in what do you think happened in the back rooms there cuz that almost was overnight that happened
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I know what happened and you're not supposed to do that it's not supposed to be probably
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constitutional she got no votes he got 14 million votes all of a sudden they're telling him to get out or they they
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threatened him but who were they angry person well I would say Schumer Pelosi and numerous other
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people uh the heads of the Democrat Party yeah and they did they threatened
44:56
him violently I think and he didn't want to get out remember he said only God will get me out right only God will get
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me somebody dressed up like God and just chased him out of there yeah and what happened is they they went to him and
45:08
they said this was after the debate now if he didn't have the debate he would still be running Running Y so they set
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him up they knew they were going to pull him that I don't know I mean he had his debate maybe he wanted to I heard he
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didn't I heard they offered me things that I would never accept and I accepted them they said CNN they said Jake top
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Tapper Dana Bash they they said all things that I could not take and I accepted all of them and uh you know
45:38
look it was a good debate for me it wasn't a good debate for him I think he'd still be running right now you wouldn't have her she was one of the
45:44
most uh disrespected people in the whole country she was she was a failed vice
45:49
president she was the most um she was considered the worst vice president in
45:55
the history of our country yeah she had no chance you know if you go back six weeks they were saying how bad she was
46:02
and they wanted to choose from 11 different people do you feel I thought that's what they were going to have oh
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you thought that's what they well that would have seemed more democratic I think they were they were uh they wanted
46:12
to be politically correct and they chose her I I feel like it would have seemed
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more but dude I got so angry when they sidetracked Bernie a few years ago that wasn't fair happened to Bernie twice
46:24
yeah got you think about it yeah oh it was crazy yeah 2016 20 he just got you know it just wasn't cool like whatever
46:30
you think it's just like we have to be able to believe do you like Bernie is he are you friends with him or something no
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i' met him the other day I like was that the first time it was the first time were you impressed by him I yeah one
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thing he's he's still sharp right oh yeah he's still sharp he doesn't suffer from what Biden did no no no no no
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mental dullness yeah right I mean mentally G is just Biden is like gone
46:54
he's you know somebody put a merry over around in his head I heard but that's you know but they didn't plug it in they
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didn't tell him yeah but uh no one thing I like I liked about Bernie well one of the things is it's the healthcare I just
47:07
feel like we spend so much money in different places and people are sick and the opioid EP I just feel like um and
47:13
the lower cost of drugs those are things that I and did because I got insulin down and they took credit for it but I
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got it down to $35 and I said I hope I win because somebody's going to take credit it took
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it takes a per of time before it kicks in statutorily and I got it down to $35
47:31
which is a very low price and they took credit for it which is you know now I'm taking credit because I'm talking to you
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you know Well yeah if you did it then you should be able to take credit for just I just watched her performance today so she went out and who Cala yeah
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she lied about everything she said uh this Trump tax that Trump tax that Trump he's going to tax this he's going to tax
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all these different things and I'm not going to tax them she made it up
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podcast look people in politics many of them not all of them are really Liars
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but she's really liar she made a a series of lots of different taxes that Trump's going to charge you on clothing
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he's going to charge you on this or that and actually she's the one your taxes are going to go up by four times and if
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the Trump tax cuts because I got the largest tax cuts ever but they expire in a number of
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months pretty soon uh she has to be able to uh do something about it and she's
50:52
unwilling and uncapable I'll tell you what if she's pres she's the worst vice president ever he's the worst president
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ever a deadly combination and we have a country where the borders are bad where
51:04
the world is blowing up you look at Israel you look at Ukraine you look at all the different things that are happening oh we're yeah she is and she
51:11
has no clue and you know what I I say about her why don't you do it you know she complains about everything she's
51:17
been there for three and a half years why don't you do it all you have to do is say why don't you do it why didn't you fix it you could fix it right now
51:25
don't you know do whatever you're doing yeah and she won't talk to you and she won't talk to anybody she won't be
51:30
interviewed she's welcome to come on I would love to get to talk to her I'm sure she'd be very exciting um actually
51:36
you could make her exciting probably you think yeah I think she somebody said she's a good roller skater that's what I heard which is crazy that's about
51:45
it I me look we're gonna wrap it up soon okay is that we saying okay Donald sorry
51:50
um speaking of uh speaking of Cala and speaking of the Border we had two border patrol agents that came on in the past
51:56
two years we wanted to learn it from people that are on the ground and one of the things that we out was a lot of
52:02
times they keep arresting the same people because the the the uh people that are coming in illegally aren't
52:07
being prosecuted that's one of the biggest problems they were saying um what can we do differently to make things safe at the border it's the fact
52:14
that a family can't a father can't you know can't sleep at night
52:20
because he doesn't know who's going through his yard or going through it it's just not fair it's not what you sign up for when you're an American what
52:26
what what are you going to do differently so the borders well I did it I did it we had the best border oh the wall they should have kept it I agree we
52:32
had the wall built we had more going to come Beyond long beyond what I promised I built hundreds of miles of wall and it
52:40
worked walls work you know walls and wheels I say it all the time two things they never get obsolete wheels and walls
52:47
well they also supplied infrastructure like people don't understand the wall also was a place where uh border patrol
52:53
agents could go to get water to get food to rest provided like a shelter out there as well they're in the middle of
52:59
nowhere they said it worked the two the two that I've spoken said it work and I was going to do 200 miles of wall we had
53:04
it built and we to spe you know to the specs specifications of the border
53:10
patrol we were going to put it up and it would take three weeks to put it up that's an additional 200 miles to fill
53:17
up certain areas that you know when when you make the wall and all of a sudden they start coming through other areas we
53:23
had it wired and they wouldn't do it they wouldn't put it up and I realize they wanted open borders Cala wants open
53:31
borders she's going to have open borders we'll have 50 60 million people because of them sick we have over 20 million
53:37
people in my opinion right now that came into our country many come from prisons jails mental institutions many
53:45
terrorists uh do you know that other countries now their crime rate is way down because they're sending all their
53:50
criminals they're sending all of their criminals to us and who would take this
53:55
why is this it's a good thing it's a horrible she should be ashamed and you
54:01
know she was the borders are too he put her in charge she was the worst borders are in the history of the world she's a
54:06
roller skater that's what somebody told me the other day she's terrible but what are you going to do what's going to happen with the Border when you're back
54:13
we're going to seal the border and I had it very well sealed we had the we had the most successful Border in the
54:19
history of our country we're going to seal the Border we're going to finish up certain areas of the wall because they didn't do it and we're going to have a
54:26
unbelievable border and we're going to spend a lot of time getting the criminals out look we have murderers in
54:31
our country now I don't think people should be allowed to be in our country if they're criminals well then you're going to be very unhappy to know that we
54:38
have a lot of people hundreds of thousands of murderers we have we have people drug dealers talking about drugs
54:45
it's it's not even believable that they'll do it so what they've done is they've allowed murderers people in
54:52
prisons people in jails people in mental institutions in Santa house and terrorists to pour into our country by
54:59
the hundreds of thousands and they are in our country right now and the country that brought them out said if you ever
55:05
come back we're giving you the death penalty or we're going to kill you well in Brooklyn alone there's a huge there's a huge building that um is housing just
55:13
Haitian people they're just housing this wandering around Brooklyn all the time my friends are telling me they have some rough people too really rough people so
55:20
you're so when you so if you get reelected to border you're going to continue that project well I I going to
55:25
make sure it's safe had it we had the safest border and the best Border in the history of our country and now it's a
55:33
disaster Biden somebody invited Biden to the border and they said he went to a Border's books dude and I was like that's well they invited her and she
55:39
went to a place that doesn't have a problem you know she's a disaster she's she is the worst vice president it's the
55:46
worst Administration in the history of our country she's a part of it and she won't do an interview she would never do
55:52
an interview like this she won't do an inter yeah I want to learn more about her well I think you should ask her to come on um tell Baron I said thanks man
55:59
good yeah he's a big fan I hope to get to meet him someday he seems like a neat kid yeah he is he's great is he yeah um
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and yeah thank you for your time I can't believe that I got to be able to sit down with you I'm grateful to uh to Dana White as well for setting this up and um
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and um yeah I I just appreciate uh you giving me your time today Donald Trump
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than and good luck with your situation you're going to do it you beat it right you beat it good luck with it thank you
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brother thank you very much now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like leaves for 50
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years now hip hop has been a reflection of culture and society that includes stories of struggle and pain social
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injustice Rao inequality marginalization of communities today we confront a
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Health Care system that has been rigged against all of us hospitals forc patients to sign contracts for services
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without ever showing us actual prices stifling competition overcharging without accountability and if we can't
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pay these same contracts allow them to take everything we own creating so much
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fear that millions and millions of Americans refuse to enter our Hospital putting our health and our lives at
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stake this is an American humanitarian crisis we love our nurses and we need
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our doctors but hospitals and insurance rigging a system to make profits off of
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people that's in struggle is Unforgivable we demand prices and transparency in healthcare power to the
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patients

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