Chris Rufo Thinks We're Stuck with the Nanny State

I want to slash the federal government and return power to the states. Chris Rufo wants the same thing. The difference is, he doesn't think it's possible under current conditions. After our fascinating exchange on X earlier this month, Chris joins me to discuss lab-grown meat, how to beat Kamala, and whether America will ever get its own Javier Milei.

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