Ep3: AI vs. Germ Theory: Debunking Pseudoscience in Modern Medicine featuring Mark Gober

In this podcast Justin Leslie interviews Mark Gober, author of the Upside Down book series and former investment banking analyst. They discuss the topics of consciousness, science, spiritual awakening, political and economic theory, and medicine. Justin and Mark particularly focus on the concept of germ theory versus terrain model and the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in understanding and challenging mainstream scientific narratives. Gober shares his experiences of using AI platforms to question and challenge the consensus on germ theory and virology, leading to AI systems admitting the lack of direct evidence for the existence of certain viruses. They also discuss the potential for a paradigm shift in understanding disease and health, and the need for more rigorous scientific approaches in virology.

Mark Gober is the author of “An End to Upside Down Thinking” (2018), which won the IPPY award for best science book of the year. He is also the author of “An End to Upside Down Living” (2020), “An End to Upside Down Liberty” (2021), “An End to Upside Down Contact” (2022), “An End to the Upside Down Reset” (2023), and “An End to Upside Down Medicine” (2023); and he is the host of the podcast “Where Is My Mind?” (2019). Additionally, he serves on the Board of the Institute of Noetic Sciences and the School of Wholeness and Enlightenment.

For more on Mark and to purchase Mark’s books– including the book discussed in this episode, visit https://markgober.com/