Enlightenment Ideals Aren't Working | Jonathan Pageau

Jonathan Pageau is a French Canadian icon carver, public speaker and YouTuber exploring the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world. Luke and Jonathan discuss Jonathan's disagreements with James Lindsay on issues like the enlightenment and the place of religion in society.

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