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I mean, I think that's a win. I feel like I've only had one. No, I'm serious though. They're very few and far between. And I don't blame them because I mean, could you imagine having to deal with kids for a job and maybe you go home and you have to deal with kids of your own? So. Your kids are enough as children. So I'm good. Well, actually, actually that's one of the fun things I think about doing this show is that we get to help entertain and teach people and you at High Lift Off Road, you get to see the joy and maybe to the frustration when they don't understand how things work as far as why can't I have a 22-inch wheel in my Jeep? It's so cool looking. And they can, of course, but we suggest them away from that for technical reasons. The drivability really should be number one. And we try to always make that happen.
So anyway, like I was saying, Power Nation, Joe Elmore, a true icon in the world of automotive and travel television, Joe, the beloved host of shows like Horsepower TV, Muscle Cars, passed away in the early hours Monday, June 17th. He was 80 years old, leaving behind a legacy that spans decades and touches countless lives. Joe's rise to prominence in the automotive world began with Horsepower TV. That's the one I remember him on the most. That was fun. Those engines. And they did do at least I think a couple of times the Jeep 4.0 liter engine. Yeah, that was a lot of fun because they were getting some really amazing horsepower out of those things. Naturally aspirated, not a supercharger or turbo or any of that stuff.
Yeah, I call that cheating. I mean, I don't mind Horsepower anyway you get it, but I mean, I've been around it a lot lately. So yeah. It was a lot of fun. His expertise and ability to explain technical details clearly and engagingly. That's what I was saying earlier. He was a good teacher, inspired countless enthusiasts to start their own projects. And I think that's one of the wonderful things that a teacher can do. And his title wasn't a teacher, but I think that's what he was doing. He was helping you understand this is something you can do too. And that's what I hope we do here. I hope so. Any knucklehead can do what we do. That's right. I mean, you can go to YouTube, you can come to us. We team building in Spiker. Here we go. Exactly. So was there, is there any kind of shows or anything that you were inspired by or individuals that you were inspired by like Joe has inspired me? You know, personally, so my dad was all about being in the garage working on Harley's. So that was my first experience with Garage Time as a little girl.
And I loved it so much. He rebuilt a sports store that he received and it was so much fun to watch him and his buddies do it. And I learned so much about that, the Garage Time importance, the camaraderie that it brings. So it's not just working on, let's say the Harley or the Jeep or the vehicle, but there's a camaraderie that happens. Oh yeah. Garage Time is really important. So I feel like that show, Horsepower TV did bring that about as well. It's almost like the original. I mean, now we watch things on YouTube. A lot of people have shows, which is great, but that was almost like the original Garage Time that we could all join in on from anywhere.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun and it was a well-produced show. I think it's still on, but ever since we got rid of, I call it cable. I mean, I can call it cable so people can identify, but ever since we got rid of Satellite TV, I cut the cord. A lot of these shows that were just available to me so easily are, you know, you have to go look and find or install on the app. Yeah. So because it's harder, I really haven't kept up. It's like, I told you, I mentioned, because I like name dropping. We interviewed Stacey David and I did not know that Stacey David is still doing gears.
So he was on Horsepower TV and then he moved off onto his own. And I think he's been doing gears for like 13, 14 years, but he's still doing it. And it's on YouTube. So I can just go to YouTube and watch the games now. So it's anytime and rewatch anytime. Exactly. That's a wonderful thing about On Demand.
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