New York Times Reporter Lulu Garcia-Navarro Cuts Off Jonah Goldberg As He Calls Out Anti-Semitism

On Tuesday's CNN This Morning, while right-leaning contributor Jonah Goldberg was complaining about the anti-Semitic, pro-Hamas rhetoric used by some protesters on college campuses, New York Times reporter Lulu Garcia-Navarro got snippy as she jumped in to cut him off and argue against the use of police against left-wing protesters harassing Jewish students. After host Kasie Hunt had just interviewed Congressman Josh Gottheimer -- a Jewish moderate Democrat from New Jersey -- about his visit to Columbia University and his calls for the university administration to protect Jewish students, she then went to Goldberg to begin a panel discussion. The right-leaning CNN contributor and Fox News alum complained: “Look, I think the anti-Semitism stuff, particularly at Passover, is a big issue. It's a legitimate issue to talk about. It's a serious issue, and I think there's a lot of anti-Semitic stuff going on out there. But when you're saying you're Hamas, when you're praising Hamas, when you're praising Hezbollah, when you're saying you're going to globalize the intifada --”

Garcia-Navarro took exception to his commentary and jumped in to interrupt:

Lulu Garcia-Navarro, New York Times journalist/CNN Contributor: Excuse me, I'm so sorry.

Jonah Goldberg, CNN Contributor: Yeah?

Garcia-Navarro: I'm sorry, but everyone is --

Goldberg: I'm going to finish my point. It means you're pro-terrorist. If you are celebrating Hamas, you are pro-terrorist.

After declaring that she was "not disputing" that part of his analysis, she then spun for left-wing student organizers who did not act to stop anti-Semitic rhetoric at their demonstration by recalling that left-wing Jews had also protested against Israel: "Yeah, but what I'm saying is there are selective quotes that are being taken not from students themselves -- in the encampments in Columbia, they have said this -- there are Jewish students who are actually part of this."

As Goldberg reacted with a befuddled facial expression, the Times journalist added: "And I just would say more broadly, when people are calling for action -- like Representative Gottheimer -- what are they actually calling for? You already had police go on --"

Hunt jumped in to inject: "Well, hold on. If there are -- if the people in those encampments -- whether they're Columbia students or not -- if the university can clear them from that encampment, that is something the university can do."

Garcia-Navarro continued:

But they've already put -- let me just say how we got here. Columbia chose to bring police to clear the encampment that inflamed the situation to where you're now seeing these protests spread to Yale, to New York University, and beyond. I am -- many people have said that the action of bringing police into a group of people who are already feeling that they are sort of representative of the oppressed -- who are inspired by what happened with George Floyd in 2020 and seeing what is happening in Gaza, that that has really only acted as a catalyst here. And so I wonder at the wisdom of bringing in the armed police into what is essentially a university campus.

Goldberg was visibly taken aback as the two went back and forth again:

Goldberg: I question the wisdom of having a double standard that says it's okay to shout hateful pro-terrorist things at Jews, but you can't --you have to have total --

Garcia-Navarro: No one is endorsing that.

Goldberg (after looking shocked): A lot of people are endorsing that. A lot of people aren't --

Garcia-Navarro: Not here.

Goldberg: -- condemning it. Yeah. A lot of people aren't condemning it, and I -- look, I agree with you. Universities and the Democrat party and the left have a huge problem trying to figure out how to cut this Gordian knot that they've created for themselves.

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