Muslim vs. Ex-Muslim (Apostate Prophet) on Hudud and Islamic Law

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0:00 Title
1:16 Start of stream
4:19 Daniel introducing himself, and describing his journey of questioning Liberal Secular values
11:00 Is imposing values bad?
18:00 Isn't it true that Liberalism doesn't impose itself on the countries it dominates? Doesn't Liberalism allow countries to rule through Islamic
law?
22:20 MEME MOMENT: Ridvan makes an incoherent point that using weapons of mass destruction is by necessity
24:55 Isn't it more fair and less supremacist to unite people in a society through a nation state or through race than through religion?
30:20 How Liberalism imposes itself on individuals domestically and on the world
42:40 Summary of Hudud in Islamic laws
49:00 Isn't it hypocritical and inconsistent for Daniel to live in the US while hating Liberal Secularism? Why doesn't he go to an Islamic
government?
1:00:00 Explaining Hudud in a way that even non-Muslims can agree that they make sense and are rationally defensible
1:01:10 Sexuality/Zina and Top-Down vs Bottom-Up social order, how social cohesion is accomplished
1:13:58 How does polygamy fit in?
1:15:28 Importance of stable families, and the destructive result of wide-spread fornication and adultery which Islam blocks
1:21:46 Doesn't the crime rate statistics decreasing in Western nations prove that they work?
1:25:10 Ridvan's bigoted rant about the danger of Muslim r— gangs
1:31:17 The results of institutionalized individualism and breaking of social bonds in Western societies
1:37:29 Why is sexual liberation bad? Why should we repress sexuality?
1:46:55 Polygamy and stable family structures
2:05:25 Isn't it better to just use rehabilitation instead of the positive and harsh punishments in Islam like flogging?
2:14:00 Failure of enlightenment thinker's speculation against corporal punishments. Failure of US prison system
2:18:05 MEME MOMENT: Ridvan doesn't know why people are protesting in the US. Doesn't think that the US' systematic racism, police and
surveillance state, mass incarnation, prison industrial complex, capitalism, and corporate influence over government are failures. Thinks
systematic racism has nothing to do with the US prison system
2:23:50 If you were a non-Muslim, would you still believe the Islamic system is perfect? Why does human happiness and fulfillment matter to
Allah?
2:26:20 Homosexual behavior, and relevance of instinctive human disgust towards it’
2:30:00 Ridvan mutes Daniel to prevent him from finishing his argument, and then melts down that he has been victimized by
getting lectured and receiving arguments that are too complex and detailed
2:38:28 Ridvan says that Daniel doesn't know the meaning of the words "debate" and “conversation”. Daniel asks Ridvan to
show his philosophy degrees and credentials, which offends him
2:40:00 Daniel gets unmuted and sums his argument against fornication and homosexual behavior
2:41:50 Didn't we decide through utilitarianism and modernism that homosexual behavior is fine?
2:49:00 Liberal terms like "Human Rights", "Freedom’, “Equality”, and "Liberty" are incoherent and/or vacuous, and can mean anything the person
wants
2:57:43 Is slavery an ideal system and should there be slaves in society?
3:23:45 Ridvan stumbling while trying to explain his claim that "Western Values" (Defined as: Catholic/Protestant history +
Greek philosophy + values of the Roman Empire + Enlightment values) = wealthy and technology advanced society
3:41:48 Apostasy and social cohesion. How "Free Speech’ is only tolerated by Western governments and the status quo as long as it doesn't pose
a threat to their power otherwise they'll crack down on defectors
3:53:43 A shaken Ridvan complains
3:56:26 More on apostasy. Social bonds and cohesion, and group unity
4:01:06 Aims of the Shariah and human happiness. Superiority of divine guidance compared to the
speculation of limited human minds
4:05:30 Does imposing and enforcing Islam mean that it is not strong enough?
4:09:34 Doesn't people making laws on their own lead to happiness and progress? Does technology on its own improve the quality of human life,
and how does transhumanism lead to happiness?
4:19:30 How Islam stands out in the Secular Liberal hegemony dominating the world
4:27:54 Daniel's ending statement
4:30:50 Plug for Daniel's website, social media, and institute (where courses explain the arguments more in-depth)

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