Ep 66 N8 28th July 2023 The State On The Run

Tonight we have another super interesting zoom - Liz updates us on Ants v Worksafe court hearing, (why it didnt happen) in Rotorua on Thursday. Liz runs why the state is on the run.
We have thoughts from Ants around the case, police involvement and how he felt when the jabs were being rolled out.

Timeline:

02:05 Liz: Discusses Ants court happenings from Monday at Rotorua District Court – McKenzie friend – Worksafe didn’t appear and why – Wrong for trying to collect under section 168 HSWA 2015 – Wrong Act was used to fine, and under vehicle rego – The magnificent 7, businesses that didn’t mandate their staff to vax nor discriminate against clients – CVC’s were voluntary – Section 93 HSWA 2015 - Misrepresentation – Section 129 Health Act 1956 - Protection of persons acting under authority of Act – Mistakes made in good faith or weren’t careless – WS legal department

12:00 Liz: Health Act is incorporated into the 2020 act in an attempt to stop the liability – Can’t use the excuse of careless because they’re publicly funded to know their own Act – WS’s legal department’s document “Our enforcement approach during the COVID-19 pandemic” – WS letter to Ants re contracts – Mind map to come “why the state is on the run” – It was marketing a drug for Pfizer - COVID-19 v actual occupational disease (other diseases) – Notifiable infectious disease to Bloomfield, caused by work – Liz gives an example of a notifiable workplace disease – Section 199 Health and Safety at Work Act 2015 - Requirement of medical officer of health to notify regulator of work-related notifiable disease or hazardous substances injury

21:00 Liz: Example conclusion – The only situation where a person's name, address and medical info is allowed to be passed from the PCBU (or doctor) to Worksafe – Waiting on OIA sent to WS of any reports of COVID-19 arising from the workplace under Section 199 of the HSWA – Must be unlawful – Got the topic into the employment court – Reluctance of employers to do investigation on lawfulness of employee losing job or vax safety – They cried they had to do it – Judicial reviews had nothing to do with private contracts – Yardley remark and employment law – Employment law guards against the imbalance of power

28:24 Liz: Liz sums up the happenings of court with her case in the employment case today – Orders which are secondary legislation v employment law and Health and Safety at Work law, which are Acts of Parliament – Presently there’s no case law which say’s Liz is wrong

32:07 Liz: Ants’ charges re CVC & non-CVC signage – Clause 25 COVID-19 Public Health Response (Protection Framework) Order 2021 - Regulated business or service must comply with CVC rules or non-CVC rules – Propaganda and censorship

38:19 Liz: Why Worksafe didn’t come to court 27th July 2023 – Worksafe withdrew but wants Masterton business to keep paying – Ants recaps his discussion with Worksafe – Mind map idea expanded – Worksafe was used as they wanted to use employment levers

41:50 Liz: The sentencing Of Billy Tk Jnr. and Vinny Eastwood to jail – Police as policy enforcers in 2020 Act – Same situation as Worksafe with liability hooked up with the Health Act – Have to show symptoms according to the Health Act 1956 – Section 92K Health Act 1956 - Direction for medical examination – Has to go before a court for a judge to decide, not a principal, police officer etc. – Where in the Police Act?

45:01 Liz & Emz: Police could only prevent a breach of the peace – What were the tools of enforcement the Police used??? Administrative law must be fair and transparent

51:55 Ants & Liz: Discuss the court happenings and the lack of legal education for the everyday person

54:23 Liz: New article by Gary Judd KC: Freedom is a precious commodity - $300 to sign as a candidate and then can distribute “electoral” leaflets anywhere – Police as enforcers – Where in the policing Act allows them to collect fines – Police behaviour at the Freedom Village

01:02:41 Ants & Liz: Police getting involved in workplaces during the mandates – Ants shares his personal experiences with the police – State employees and mandates

01:07:38 Open chat

01:12:44 Ants: Hello Stranger – Ants shares his personal experiences with social standing amongst friends, clients, and community – Speaks about the coercion in the community to get the jab – People forgot people were losing their jobs, businesses, and economy – The difficulty of going against the narrative and the “team of five million” – Ants speaks from the heart

01:19:52 Ants & Liz: Breaking it down to explain to people how Worksafe messed up – Make it relatable – Picking out the law to either defend or prosecute somebody – What is the weapon being used against the people – remember when the media were saying unvaxxed were the baddies

01:23:57 Speaker 6: Discussing the incident of police brutality to a woman arrested at Freedom Village – Police withdraw the case against the woman – Like Worksafe dropping cases – Police Commissioner Andrew Coster and his delegation powers??? – Paul McCartney & Wings - Band On The Run

Content links:

McKenzie friend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKenzie_friend

The MAGNIFICENT 7, see infringement list from Worksafe – See Ants infringements
https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/about-us/news-and-media/businesses-doing-the-right-thing-under-covid-19-requirements/

Section 93 Health and Safety at Work Act 2015 - Misrepresentation
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2015/0070/latest/DLM5977035.html

Section 129 of the Health Act 1956 - Protection of persons acting under authority of Act
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1956/0065/121.0/DLM308498.html

Section 199 Health and Safety at Work Act 2015 - Requirement of medical officer of health to notify regulator of work-related notifiable disease or hazardous substances injury
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2015/0070/latest/DLM5977194.html

Clause 25 COVID-19 Public Health Response (Protection Framework) Order 2021 - Regulated business or service must comply with CVC rules or non-CVC rules
https://legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2021/0386/23.0/LMS600748.html

20221125 (F) - CVC OPT-IN OR OPT-OUT could it be that simple - Health Act 1956
https://rumble.com/v262br4-cvc-opt-in-or-opt-out-cold-it-be-that-simple.html

A TURNING POINT IN OUR NATION: THE SENTENCING OF BILLY TK JNR. AND VINNY EASTWOOD TO JAIL – By GUY HATCHARD July 27, 2023
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/opinion/a-turning-point-in-our-nation-the-sentencing-of-billy-tk-jnr-and-vinny-eastwood-to-jail/

Search for word “symptom” in Health Act 1956
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1956/0065/latest/DLM305845.html?search=sw_096be8ed81c588c6_symptoms_25_se&p=1&sr=0

Section 92K Health Act 1956 - Direction for medical examination
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1956/0065/latest/DLM307448.html

Gary Judd KC: Freedom is a precious commodity
https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2023/07/gary-judd-kc-freedom-is-precious.html

Paul McCartney & Wings - Band On The Run (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P_VfLun96o

ADDITIONAL:

Restaurant penalised for multiple COVID-19 breaches
https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/about-us/news-and-media/restaurant-penalised-for-multiple-covid-19-breaches/

Audit and enforcement – Worksafe website
https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/topic-and-industry/energy-safety/audit-and-enforcement/enforcement/

Worksafe Annual Report 2019/2020 - The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on our year pg. 32–39
https://constitution-unit.com/2021/10/13/reliance-on-secondary-legislation-has-resulted-in-significant-problems-it-is-time-to-rethink-how-such-laws-are-created/

and temidayo Jing = intimidating