Dan Grimm Questioned on Making Up Rules

At the February 9th LD3 Meeting, Parlimentarian Dan Grimm tried to count proxy votes during a standing vote. The point of information was made that proxies were not counted during the State Meeting and the question was specifically asked for standing votes and Proxies were not counted. Dan of course said he disagreed because of "Robert's Rules of Order". When he was asked to cite the section of Robert's Rules and said "No". He was then accused of "Making up a rule".

Here are the Actual rules and sections:

PROXIES

Proxy Votes are NOT counted in a voice vote or rising vote as was modeled at the State Committeeman meeting. This specific question was asked and proxy votes are not counted in this type of vote.

#45:2 One Person, One Vote. It is a fundamental principle of parliamentary law that each person who is a member of a deliberative assembly is entitled to one-and only one- vote on a question.

#45:56 Absentee Voting. It is a fundamental Principle of parliamentary law that the right to vote is limited to the members of an organization who are actually present at the time the vote is taken in a regular or properly called meeting…

45:70 Proxy Voting. A proxy is a power of attorney given by one person to another to vote in his stead; the term also designates the person who holds the power of attorney. Proxy voting is not permitted in ordinary deliberative assemblies unless the laws of the state in which the society is incorporated require it, or the charter or bylaws of the organization provide for it. Ordinarily it should neither be allowed nor required, because proxy voting is incompatible with the essential characteristics of a deliberative assembly…