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Ukraine labs – threat reduction or…
Ukraine labs – threat reduction or…
By Terry A. Hurlbut
Late on the night of February 1, User “Kanekoa the Great,” who revealed the Google Leaks, revealed something else. Shortly after Russia began its “special military operation” in Ukraine, CNAV heard rumors of biological weapons development facilities in Ukraine – with American funding, and under American direction. Now “Kanekoa the Great” asserts he can prove precisely that. Moreover he linked to another thread that appeared two days before, offering further evidence. (That evidence came from a user who won reinstatement in Elon’s Grand Mass Liberation of Twitter.) The two threads suggest that the frantic “support” of Ukraine is a vain attempt to hide the establishment of those biological weapons development facilities. They further suggest that Vladimir Putin began his operation, in large part, to seek out and expose those facilities.
The strongest evidence against these allegations are the assurances by American embassy staff that these are “threat reduction facilities.” Is that a distinction without a difference? You decide.
Ukraine bio-weapons – the background
On March 7, 2022, CNAV published this compilation of Twitter tweets and YouTube and Rumble videos detailing Unkraine bio-weapons rumors. The discussion began on February 24, 2022, the very day the Russian Army first moved into Ukraine. Veterans Today carried one such rumor; a site calling itself “Rupreparing” carried another.
Then a Twitter user calling himself WarClandestine posted this thread:
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745429672857602
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745433351311362
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745438413832195
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745441379201029
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745444101210114
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496747044836413440
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496829820113760257
Twitter’s Trust and Safety Team suspended WarClandestine’s account on the strength of that thread. Many expressed skepticism of his account – but the skepticism amounted to a parsing of definitions. See, for example:
https://twitter.com/RBizzle7/status/1496839183469453316
Someone else accused WarClandestine of making it up to support Russian military action, which this user regarded as illegitimate.
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619168253217234945
https://twitter.com/AlberRom/status/1619276705029558273
https://twitter.com/xKrazyBumx/status/1620635453090312192
Note that the other user replied immediately to the first tweet in the thread. Now note the eleven-month hiatus between that tweet and WarClandestine’s reply. Clearly Twitter suspended WarClandestine, and then when he got his account back, he started the argument all over again.
CNAV provides the other reply tweets to WarClandestine’s original thread, for review:
https://twitter.com/sober_bitcoiner/status/1496816810808598530
https://twitter.com/SPandproudofit/status/1496786584133242881
https://twitter.com/Graelwyn/status/1496761480066199553
https://twitter.com/iamshinerk/status/1496791594506276865
The United States Embassy in Ukraine called these labs “threat reduction assets.”
Beginning on March 3, 2022, confirmations began to roll in. These tweets give a good sample:
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1500603205515948032
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1500607023033073670
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1500606080233185282
https://twitter.com/d_e_mol/status/1500618198215008256
https://twitter.com/dgaytandzhieva/status/1497556518278991873
https://twitter.com/dgaytandzhieva/status/1497556924447010816
See also these two videos:
https://youtu.be/xKoPNAb8IV8
https://rumble.com/embed/vub9eh/?pub=4teej
The latest threads
WarClandestine left this thread on January 29:
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886319181905922
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886332410761216
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886337741721600
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886414098993152
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886500510044162
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886507363532802
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886515580207104
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886521162817537
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886525667495937
Liz Wheeler asked him for an interview.
https://twitter.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/1620132745132535808
Presumably she got that interview, because she produced this episode about “a conspiracy theory about Ukraine.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN7GcQtba_4
Here we have some back-and-forth, including one user who wanted to argue about “conspiracy theorists”:
https://twitter.com/1114Fuller/status/1619904391666098177
https://twitter.com/Summertimeblu20/status/1620122586440159232
https://twitter.com/hpa1968/status/1620757877697937409
One user, apparently an American, wondered forthrightly whether America was aiding the wrong side:
https://twitter.com/mschrammbo/status/1619904420392898560
Another user expressed what looks like skepticism. But bear in mind the Ukraine flag he flies as part of his account name:
https://twitter.com/Primetime_BTC/status/1619977118590566401
With that as background, herewith Kanekoa the Great’s thread:
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002487326212096
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002490404823040
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002494758490113
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002497883267072
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002500840251392
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002503663022081
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002506607431680
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002510965297152
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002513989394432
Most reaction to this thread is of the “There you see” and “Wow” varieties. But these two tweets added original material, in the form of synoptic graphics:
https://twitter.com/Ulstermanontour/status/1621105519891988486
https://twitter.com/PuddinTain12345/status/1621181037849022465
Analysis
The problem with “conspiracy theories” is that the “intelligence take” from social media looks the same. This holds whether the theory is true or false. But the problem for those who dismiss such theories as false, is that too many of them have proved true. The Twitter Files and other such releases have in fact proved the truth of the oldest conspiracy theory of the Internet. Which is that legacy media, and social-media moderators, really do preferentially suppress content that questions leftist authority. At the same time, these same organs accuse others of offenses varying from misprision of the news, to treason.
The Russian Federation has long held that Ukraine had biological weapons development facilities in it. We know from the FTX revelations that Ukraine has been a money laundry for leftist causes, including the Democratic Party. (But don’t forget RINOs.) More to the point, the United States Embassy in Ukraine did avow having “biological threat reduction facilities” in Ukraine. When does such research go beyond “threat reduction” toward outright weaponization of viral or microbial life? This brings up another problem: today nearly all the authorities tasked with making such a distinction, stand accused of nefarious behavior.
This, then, is what the House of Representatives should investigate, now that a different Party conference has taken it over. Let those embassy and State Department personnel make their technical distinctions while seated at a green baize table. That, more than “vax mandates,” deserves investigation – immediate investigation.
Link to:
The article:
https://cnav.news/2023/02/03/editorial/talk/ukraine-labs-threat-reduction-other/
United States Embassy statement on threat reduction laboratories:
https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/
Old videos:https://twitter.com/sober_bitcoiner/status/1496816810808598530
https://twitter.com/SPandproudofit/status/1496786584133242881
https://twitter.com/Graelwyn/status/1496761480066199553
https://twitter.com/iamshinerk/status/1496791594506276865
https://youtu.be/xKoPNAb8IV8
https://rumble.com/vwxfgf-russia-tells-the-us-we-have-found-your-biological-weapons.html?mref=4teej&mc=88ce6
Liz Wheeler video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN7GcQtba_4
First WarClandestine thread:
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745429672857602
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745433351311362
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745438413832195
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745441379201029
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745444101210114
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496747044836413440
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496829820113760257
Reaction to this thread:
https://twitter.com/RBizzle7/status/1496839183469453316
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619168253217234945
https://twitter.com/AlberRom/status/1619276705029558273
https://twitter.com/xKrazyBumx/status/1620635453090312192
https://twitter.com/sober_bitcoiner/status/1496816810808598530
https://twitter.com/SPandproudofit/status/1496786584133242881
https://twitter.com/Graelwyn/status/1496761480066199553
https://twitter.com/iamshinerk/status/1496791594506276865
Confirmation tweets:
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1500603205515948032
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1500607023033073670
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1500606080233185282
https://twitter.com/d_e_mol/status/1500618198215008256
https://twitter.com/dgaytandzhieva/status/1497556518278991873
https://twitter.com/dgaytandzhieva/status/1497556924447010816
Second WarClandestine thread:
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886319181905922
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886332410761216
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886337741721600
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886414098993152
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886500510044162
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886507363532802
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886515580207104
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886521162817537
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1619886525667495937
Liz Wheeler’s request for interview:
https://twitter.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/1620132745132535808
Reaction to it:
https://twitter.com/1114Fuller/status/1619904391666098177
https://twitter.com/Summertimeblu20/status/1620122586440159232
https://twitter.com/hpa1968/status/1620757877697937409
https://twitter.com/mschrammbo/status/1619904420392898560
https://twitter.com/Primetime_BTC/status/1619977118590566401
Kanekoa the Great’s thread:
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002487326212096
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002490404823040
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002494758490113
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002497883267072
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002500840251392
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002503663022081
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002506607431680
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002510965297152
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002513989394432
Tweets with synoptic graphics:
https://twitter.com/Ulstermanontour/status/1621105519891988486
https://twitter.com/PuddinTain12345/status/1621181037849022465
Declarations of Truth Twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/DecTruth
Conservative News and Views:
https://cnav.news/
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https://cnav.store/
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