Same-Sex Attraction as a Catholic: Interview w/ Garrett Johnson | The Simpleton Podcast

***Some sexual content is discussed in this episode. It's not very descriptive, but it would likely fall in the PG-13 category. Viewer and listener discretion is advised.***

Garrett Johnson, also known as "Brother Without Order", is a Catholic speaker and blogger living in the DC area who experiences same-sex attraction (SSA).

While some want him to claim that his identity is found in being gay, Garrett has a much different perspective: one that has helped him live a much more fulfilling, truthful, and Catholic lifestyle.

In this episode:
• "Born this way" is a hoax?
• The Catholic ministry "Courage" and its impact on those with SSA
• Conversion therapy vs. true "reparative" therapy
• How to live chastely as someone with SSA
• How to be a supportive parent to a child with SSA

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Links:

Courage's website: https://couragerc.org/

Garrett's website, Brother Without Order: https://www.brotherwithoutorder.com/

Garrett's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/gfreakj

"Catholics with same-sex attraction live church teaching through Courage ministry" - Article from the Arlington Catholic Herald featuring Garrett:
https://www.catholicherald.com/article/local/catholics-with-same-sex-attraction-live-church-teaching-through-courage-ministry/

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Chapters:

0:00 Start
0:06 Introducing Garrett Johnson, "Brother Without Order"
1:14 *A quick disclaimer about this episode*
2:03 Introducing Garrett, cont.
2:28 Religion & sexuality in childhood
6:03 First experience of same-sex attraction
7:11 Exposure to pornography
8:54 Drinking, smoking, and clubbing
10:38 Starting a gay lifestyle
11:34 Sex helped me understand something crucial
13:16 The narrative surrounding gay lifestyles & LGBTQ
18:30 Hitting rock bottom & a relationship with God
21:03 Being a hair stylist & the connection to this journey
23:05 How to bring someone back to the Catholic Church
25:57 How "accepting" should Catholics be?
26:37 Fully becoming Catholic & EWTN's "The Journey Home"
28:38 The turning point
29:40 Quitting weed, YouTube, and brotherwithoutorder.com
32:08 Finding Courage (the Catholic ministry)
38:58 Garrett's main message
41:38 The ministry that Garrett can provide now
43:15 What it takes to be a great mother
46:09 "Born this way" is a hoax?
48:23 SSA could come from psychological issues
49:56 Conversion therapy vs. true "reparative" therapy
53:00 How to live chastely as someone with SSA
56:12 The ministry of the barbershop
58:19 How to be a supportive parent to a child with SSA
1:01:18 Speak the truth with love!
1:02:07 Outro (and where to hear more of Garrett!)

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