Preterist vs Futurist Debate

It is imperative that each of us reads His Word ourselves.

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Not relying on someone else to tell us what it says.
And I know, I used to say,
"but I don't understand it (the Bible). I need someone else to explain it."

Romans 14:5

“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike.
Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

”The Revelation of Jesus Christ" (1:1).
"Revelation" (Gr., apokalupsis) means "an uncovering," "an unveiling," or "a disclosure."

Luke 17:20-21

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said,

***The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:**

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you

How sure are you of Jesus' return? What are you supporting your view with?
Is it a hope? Can you support your view with scripture?

The truth of the matter is that the futurist view has no scriptural support, it is merely a hope based on the teachings of the church.
If that statement riles you,
then good, let a little fire burn in your belly and go ahead and prove me wrong.
Show me one scripture that speaks of Jesus returning to a future generation.
I was a futurist but then I decided to believe my bible.

Here is the scriptural support for Christ returning to the apostle's generation,
setting up His kingdom and initiating the new covenant some 2000 years ago...

- Matt 10:23

"But whenever they persecute you in one city, flee to the next; for truly I say to you,
you will not finish going through the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes."
"Verily I say to you, There are some standing here, who shall not taste death,
till they shall see the Son of man coming in His kingdom."

Matthew 16:28

28 Verily I say unto you,
There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the
Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Matthew 24:32-35-32-35

“Take a lesson from the fig tree.
From the moment you notice its buds form, the merest hint of green, you know summer’s just around the corner.
So it is with you:
When you see all these things, you’ll know he’s at the door. Don’t take this lightly.

***I’m not just saying this for some future generation,
but for all of you.
***This age continues until all these things take place. Sky and earth will wear out; my words won’t wear out"

- Revelation 1:7

"Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him."

- Malachi 4:5

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD."
"And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come.

John 21:22

"Jesus said to him, 'If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!'"

- Hebrews 10:37

"For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry."

James 5:8-9

"Be ye also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord is at hand.
Do not complain, brethren,
against one another, so that you yourselves may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing at the door." -

Romans 16:20

"And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly." -

- Daniel 8:26

"The vision of the evenings and mornings that has been given you is true, but seal up the vision,
**for it concerns the distant future."

- Daniel 12:4

"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book even to the time of the end."

- Revelation 22:10

"And he said to me, "Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand."

- Phil 4:5

"Let your gentleness be known to all men. *** The Lord is at hand." **

Revelation 1:1

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly take place."

Revelation 1:3

"Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near."

- Revelation 1:9

"I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the ** tribulation ** and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus..."

- Revelation 3:11

"I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown."

- Revelation 22:6

"The angel said to me, 'These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets,
sent his angel to show his servants the things that must

***soon take place.'" ***

- Revelation 22:12

"Behold, I am coming soon!..."

- Revelation 22:22

"He which testifies to these things says, Surely I come quickly. Amen..."

- Matt 24:14

"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations,

***and then the end will come." ***

- Colossians 1:23

"If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel,
which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven..."

- Romans 10:18

"But I ask: Did they not hear?
Of course they did:
'Their voice has gone out into
***all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.'" **

Romans 16:25-26

"Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ,
according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past,
**but now is manifested,
and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God,
has been made known to all the nations..." -

Romans 6:

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more;
death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Philippians 3:8

Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:
for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law,
but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after,
if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do,
****forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,***

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body,
according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

- Romans 13:12

"The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness,
and let us put on the armor of light."

-I John 2:18

"Children, it is the last hour and just as you heard that antichrist is coming,
even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour."

- I Cor 7:29-31

"But this I say, brethren,
the time has been shortened,
so that from now on those who have wives should be as though they had none; and those who weep,
as though they did not weep... and those who use the world,
as though they did not make full use of it; for the form of this world is passing away."

- Matt 24:22

"And except those days had been shortened no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

- Luke 21:20-22
"When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.
Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains,
let those in the city get out,
and let those in the country not enter the city.
For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written."

- Hebrews 1:2

"...in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things..."

- I Cor 10:11

"Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come."

John 14:22

Judas (not Iscariot) asked Him, “Lord, why are You going to reveal Yourself to us and not to the world?”

Ephesians 2:5

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

John 14:

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:
but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more;
but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him.

1 Corinthians 15:

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God;
because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ:
whom he raised not up,
if so be that the dead rise not.

16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

Matthew 16:4

An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign,
and there will be no sign given to it, except the sign of the prophet Jonah." He left them, and departed.

Matthew 12:40

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

1 Corinthian 10:11

11 These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come

Ezekiel 12:22-28

22 “Son of man, what is this proverb that you people have about the land of Israel,
which says, ‘The days are prolonged, and every vision fails’?

23 Tell them therefore, ‘Thus says the Lord God:
“I will lay this proverb to rest, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel.”
’ But say to them, ‘ “The days are at hand, and the
fulfillment of every vision.

24 For no more shall there be any false vision or flattering divination within the house of Israel.

25 For I am the Lord. I speak, and the word which I speak will come to pass; it will no more be postponed; for in your days, O rebellious house, I will say the word and perform it,” says the Lord God.’ ”

26 Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying,

27 “Son of man, look,
the house of Israel is saying, ‘The vision that he sees is for many days from now, and he prophesies of times far off.’

28 Therefore say to them,
‘Thus says the Lord God:
“None of My words will be postponed any more,
but the word which I speak will be done,” says the Lord God.’ ”

Hebrews 9:27

Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to, and then we are judged.

The Lord Jesus has Already RETURNED
Revelation means the Revealing of Jesus Christ

The World is Not ending the old covenant is what ended

Jesus said IT IS FINISHED
He put an end to transgressions through his blood on the tree. He said all of my children will be taught by God

Psalms 19:4

Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.
In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

2 Corinthians 5:4

while we are in this tent, we groan under our burdens,
because we do not wish to be unclothed but clothed,
so that our mortality may be swallowed up by life.

5 And God has prepared us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a pledge of what is to come.

6 Therefore we are always confident, although we know that while we are at home in the body,
we are away from the Lord.

7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

8 We are confident, then,
and
(would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.)

9 So we aspire to please Him,
whether we are here in this body or away from it.

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ,
that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body,
whether good or bad.

14
For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that One died for all, therefore all died.

15 (And He died for all,
that those who live should no longer live for themselves,)
but for Him who died for them and was raised again.

16 ****So from now on we regard no one according to the flesh.*****

***Although we once regarded Christ in this way,

**** NOT COMING IN THE FLESH AGAIN!!****

(WE DO SO NO LONGER!!!!!)

***NEW CREATION***

17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ,
he is a new creation.

(The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!)

***NEW HEAVEN AND EARTH***

18 All this is from God,
who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:

19 that God was reconciling the world to Himself in Christ,
not counting men’s trespasses against them.
And He has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

20 Therefore we are ambassadors for Christ,
as though God were making His appeal through us.
We implore you on behalf of Christ:
Be reconciled to God.

2 Corinthians 5:17

Since all His words “are true and faithful,”
we know His promises are sure. Therefore,
already,
*** “old things are passed away; behold,
all things are become new”***
through faith in Christ

Hebrews 12:24

And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Galatians 6:15

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision,
but a new creature.

Romans 8:22

under the bondage of the universal law of decay and death;
indeed “the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now”

2 Peter 3:13

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness”

Isaiah 54:13

All your children will be taught by the LORD, and great will be their peace.

Revelation 1:7

He is coming with the clouds,
and every eye will see him, and

(THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM)

and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him.
For everyone saying that the 'end is near'... read
Ephesians 3:21.

I've included a couple verses prior for context
(because CONTEXT is wholly critical to understanding scripture).
This world will NOT end.
No.
Jesus Christ is King of Kings,
reigning right NOW,
and we are promised that this world will not end.
Remember,
on earth as it is in Heaven.

Praying for Jesus to come is also calling Him a liar.

Praying for Him to 'come' is denying that He is in FACT here right NOW, inside each of us born again of the Spirit.

No need to wait brothers and sisters. Receive Him now.
His Kingdom is INSIDE of you:

When we renew our mind in Christ we start to see only Christ.
He left nothing unfinished as promised.
Everything else is a circus act to confuse us,

God is not the author of confusion & we give Satan way to much glory.
Jesus left a timeline
He said “IN THIS (natural Sinai ISREAL covenant)

GENERATION ALL THINGS SHALL BE FULFILLED !”

Not us- we exist after the redemption of the cross!
We are in the NEW COVENANT,
THE PROMISE FOR OUR MESSIAH HAS BEEN FULFILLED!

We are redeemed now! We are the bride now- we are to preach the gospel and bring other to Christ,
nothing more

(do not add to the redemption of Christ)
& nothing less
(do not take away from the redemption of Christ)!
Go ye’ therefore and PREACH THE UNADULTERATED GOSPEL!

Rapture is NOT Biblical nor is the “second coming” as it’s been twisted and believed.

And Christ NEVER PROMISED TO DESTROY THE EARTH.

That would be going against His very own nature &promise!

When we learn to read scripture in proper context considering the History and relevant audience we will finally have the eyes to see the completion of the cross!
We will finally truly give our redeemer
ALL THE Glory.
Everything else is just man’s fear filled,
distracting, false prophecies; they are Not biblical but warped bibley predictive programming!

I pray for all to come into this understanding and stop seeking the circus act!
GOD IS NOT SCHIZOPHRENIC,
nor is His character what we’ve made it to be!

Please go read the scriptures with an unhindered heart as taste that HE IS GOOD!

Prophecy Fulfilled Sign of Jonah

https://rumble.com/v149pf8-prophecy-fulfilled-sign-of-jonah.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4

We Do not Need a prequalifier The Lord Jesus Has fulfilled his prophecy

https://rumble.com/v1a70x9-we-do-not-need-a-prequalifier-the-lord-jesus-has-fulfilled-his-prophecy.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4

Revelation means The Revealing of Jesus Christ

https://rumble.com/v1c61ah-revelation-means-the-revealing-of-jesus-christ.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4

Revelation Written During the Great Tribulation, Before Destruction of Jerusalem Temple!

https://rumble.com/v1kqpnf-revelation-written-during-the-great-tribulation-before-destruction-of-jerus.html

Revelation is NOT an ENDTIME Prophecy

https://rumble.com/v1dbv9z-revelation-is-not-an-endtime-prophecy-reuploaded-correctly.html

When was The Lord Jesus Christ's Second Coming

https://rumble.com/v1cmbwr-when-was-the-lord-jesus-christs-second-coming.html

What Is an Old Testament Prophet? (Sandra Richter)

https://rumble.com/v1cmcir-what-is-an-old-testament-prophet-sandra-richter.html

The Geo Engineered Revelation Prophecy and the Controversy of Zion pt.1 The Second Coming of Christ

https://rumble.com/v15k25e-the-geo-engineered-revelation-prophecy-and-the-controversy-of-zion-pt.1-the.html

The Geo Engineered Revelation Prophecy and the Controversy of Zion pt.2 Project HAARP & The Law

https://rumble.com/v15k72w-the-geo-engineered-revelation-prophecy-and-the-controversy-of-zion-pt.2-pro.html

The Geo Engineered Revelation Prophecy and the Controversy of Zion pt.3 (The Locust Alien Invasion)

https://rumble.com/v15kbk0-the-geo-engineered-revelation-prophecy-and-the-controversy-of-zion-pt.3-the.html

Jewish war

https://ia902808.us.archive.org/28/items/jewishwaranewtr00josegoog/jewishwaranewtr00josegoog.pdf

The Jewish War & the Destruction of Jerusalem

http://www.biblecharts.org/sermons/thejewishwarandthedestructionofjerusalem.pdf

Flavius Josephus Chronology of the Destruction of Jerusalem: AD 62-73

https://www.bible.ca/revelation/Bible-Only-Revelation-Commentary-Josephus-Chronology-Destruction-Jerusalem-First-Jewish-War-70AD.htm

The Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus

https://www.fulltextarchive.com/pdfs/The-Antiquities-of-the-Jews.pdf

Siege of JerusalemJewish-Roman war [70 CE]

Https://www.britannica.com/event/Siege-of-Jerusalem-70

The Witness of 70 AD Jesus Christ Is Lord!

https://letgodbetrue.com/sermons/index/year-2005/witness-of-70-ad/

Jewish War & the Destruction of Jerusalem Matthew 241:22

http://www.biblecharts.org/sermons/thejewishwarandthedestructionofjerusalem.pdf

original link by The Former Agnostic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXL-4nl3zs&t=9s

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