Illuvium CEO vs Star Atlas CEO | Kieran Warwick vs Michael Wagner

Rough Summary timestamps:

11:00 Kieran's sceptical that Star Atlas can create this type of game
15:00 Michael responds to Kieran's scepticism - explains breakdown of Star Atlas Team
21:00 Kieran is irked by the outsource development
23:00 Wagner talks about the benefits of outsourcing
25:00 Kieran asks why the full team is not listed on the website
30:00 Kieran goes full bro mode - sceptical star atlas can complete with resources
33:00 Becomes slightly heated - Wagner asks why Kieran is so worried about Star Atlas and tells him he doesnt think about Illuvium at all
34:00 Real heat - Wagner claims Kieran is jealous
36:00 Kieran questions the ethics of selling nfts before game release - 200m$ worth of ships sold!
40:00 Wagner calls out inaccuracies in Kierans argument - Animoca is not a VC
47:00 UI Argument - UI is too polished - Kieran argues it should be the last part of the development
49:00 Wagner drops technical jargon
51:00 Kieran relates the UI discussion back to Illuvium and his experience
53:00 Kieran believes Star Atlas vision is unrealistic
57:00 Kieran is worried that Investors of the 200m$ were mislead to believe they could use it in game earlier than 3 -5 years
58:00 Cagy chimes in as an investor and his understanding
1:03:00 Wagner fires a shot that Star Atlas outperformed Illuvium (?)
1:05:00 Kieran talks about the near future of Illuvium
1:07:00 Cagy asks about Star Atlas Dao
1:12:00 Wagner talks about potential resource gathering / faction based web browser game
1:15:00 Cagy silences the haters

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