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Playing Stumble Guys for the 1st time!!! Wins! 11 Sep 2022
Just been playing a game called Stumble Guys for a few hours, really fun game!
Earlier today, I watched a video by ZanZard (https://youtu.be/q6pGWsk0dpY), an amazing Battlelands YouTuber, who had never revealed his face. Sadly he deleted all his Battlelands videos, although has started doing real life ones which is cool. I thought about how much I miss Battlelands, it was so much fun, so exciting, we were creating memories and community when playing it, especially in July-Dec 2018 it was absolutely amazing, all us young people who weren’t veteran gamers, coming together and discovering a new fun game, creating clans, having an awesome time, figuring out the game together through Season 1 and 2, incredibly fun. Season 3 had the quadzooka and season 5 had squads. It was cool playing with people from all over the world, adding them as a friend to play with top world players. It was such an amazing game, so many people loved it, but it sadly died out in popularity and was eventually killed. If only it was still around, many amazing games have been killed, Rush Wars, Hay Day Pop, Clash Quest, Battlelands and others. I miss Battlelands a lot.
Today I was playing games with someone, a week ago we played old PC browser games like Worms, Call to Arms, Gun Mayhem, Gun Mayhem 2, Territory War, Tank Trouble (of which the old version don’t seem to exist since the death of flash player). So sad with the death of flash player which many games relied on, so many people would still search them up, but sadly they cannot be played, and browser sites which were built on flash games will slowly close down. It shows how temporary things in this world are, flash games, Rush Wars, Battlelands, etc
We were playing Stick War 3, I won the first few games, but then they figured it out and were crushing me. We tried to find people online, but no one was online, the game is still in beta. I’ve live streamed Stick War 3 before, a good game.
He then suggested “Stumble Guys”, I thought he was joking, a cheap knockoff Falls Guys game. I remember I was amazed back in 2020 at how quickly it came out right after fall guys. Anyway I agreed to play. I played Fall Guys a few times (less than 20 hours total) back in Aug 2020, it was fun, but I wasn’t any good at it. Were I living with someone who had a PS4 or PS5 that would get the game out in the evenings, I surely would have played it wit them. I also saw OxysLuis23 live stream it before many months ago. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXN5gFVPKusnzj6dzFYfr3w) Couldn’t find the exact stream unfortunately.
He said it had 100M downloads, which is pretty insanely high for in 2 years. Hay Day has had over 100M downloads, but that’s over 10 years, so tons of them, likely over 50M of them won’t have played for years. I would estimate active Hay Day player count daily players to be under 10M. In 2013, Hay Day + Clash of Clans, made about 1.6million dollars a day.
I installed Rumble Guys, I mean Stumble Guys, are it’s a carbon copy setup/knock off of Brawl Stars layout, just looks lower graphics quality, which is good for getting new players if it’s because it’s easy to run the game, plus it’s free. Fall Guys had a massive spike in 2020 but quickly died, but in 2022 it has had a big comeback, I even saw a couple of ads for the new season.
We played the game in a party, the 2 of us. The game is also a carbon copy of Fall Guys. (Although lol Fall Guys and Brawl Stars are very different and not remotely copies of each other). The whole UI home screen is a copy of Brawl Stars, and the game is of Fall Guys. The gems and purchase amounts are also the same as Brawl Stars. So they’ve copied both Supercell and Fall Guys creators, which you think neither would be happy about. The game also reminded me of bomberground graphics, UI and style with the boombard mode. It also reminds me of Battlelands wit the season pass and all. Season passes are very common in games these days, it seems like a consistent way to get revenue. The battle for the best way to monetize games, including mobile games is still underway. There are many factors involved. As if the game isn’t super amazing, it has less options. Pay to Win is one method, I am not a fan of that. Tons of forced ads is another way, not a fan of that either, there are tons of mobile games that have lots of levels that have a ton of ads (I remember in 2019-2020 it being a big thing they’d rank high on the app store top lists as well, especially those cartoon blue men ones), to try and milk the monetization for as long as they can.) There is also cosmetic monetization. I am a big fan of that. Where the gameplay isn’t effected, but the game is so good that many people buy the cosmetics. This strategy is great, but I don’t think makes as much revenue or else more companies would do it. Some companies use a mix of strategies, like stumble guys has forced ads and cosmetics. There is also the Supercell strat of pay to progress, which I prefer a lot over pay to win. I don’t like the candy crush one of after 5 lives you can’t play anymore unless you pay. Someone said to me yesterday regarding Age of Empires 2 (which you have to pay for to get), when I commented “You have to pay to use certain civilizations, I don’t think many people will do that” (It’s like $20), he said “If you love the game then you’ll buy them”. I disagree with that. I’ve already paid about $20 for the game, and just because you don’t keep paying ongoing option costs, doesn’t mean you don’t love the game.
Season passes I think are a good idea, not super expensive, but enough that many keen players regularly get them, and it generates the company revenue. I do love the games like Battlelands, Bombergrounds, Bullet League, and Stumble Guys, where you farm up your account in little battle matches. Slowly unlock everything. It’s fun. And you can play with buddies. I could have been all over Stumble Guys when it came out, missed opportunity. I do prefer to support the original devs of a game, like Falls Guys, but Fall guys is not on mobile, so that’s not possible to cover mobile fall guys. In the case of “Wordle” which I still do, when I found out that the wordle ios app was not from the real devs, I deleted it, and only use the New York Times one online via Brave Browser on my iPhone 8 Plus.
They have a leaderboard which is great. Top 100. Many of the top 100 have won 10,000 rounds/matches, which sounds about right, as their was a player in Battlelands called William, who won 10,000 games, and Battlelands matches were longer. If each round lasts 5min (if you average 1 win per 5min), and they won 10,000, that’s 50,000 min, 833 hours. Sounds a lot, but for the top 100 of a game with 100,000,000+ players, and thus only literally 1 in a million players, 833 over 2 years (assuming that’s when the game started counting wins) is totally doable/reasonable. Makes me wonder how many hours I spent on Battlelands. I averaged about 3-4 hours a day, come home from school and play Battlelands from like 5-9pm apx. 833/20 hours a week = 42 weeks. And if you do it over about 2 years, less than 10 hours a week, which then makes it seem insanely easy. If you spent 1 hour a day for 2 years, 365*2 you get 730 hours, which is pretty close to 833. So if you spend 1.5-2 hours a day playing, you’d easily have got 10,000 wins (at a rate of 1 per 5min).
An insane amount of the top players were from Indonesia or Poland, the white and red flags flooded the leaderboard. 24 out of the top 50. 44/100. 39 Indonesia. 5 Poland. Indonesia does insanely well relatively, I don’t normally see them represented in mobile games much at all. So to have 44% of the top 100 spots is pretty insane.
Oh wow, just looked it up on Google Trends, despite it coming out in 2020, it didn’t pick up till 2022. And really pick up in May 2022, real recent. Like Among Us, 2 years of nothing from 2018, then boom.
82 current live streams of it on YT! Insane! And 17 of Clash of Clans (most of seen for COC). Yet in the last week search interest in Stumble Guys vs Clash of Clans is 64 to 36. So Stumble Guys has been about double, yet despite that it has over 4x as many live streams of it.
Anyway, I played Stumble Guys, and it was very fun. Great fun! Reminded me a lot of the old Battlelands and Bombergrounds farming up the account during fun short matches. 32 people per match, some of them bots as highlighted by them being called “StumbleGuy#3361” etc. It was surprisingly, suspiciously easy. Myself and the person I played with won the first few between us. And over the course of a few hours, won about 50% of all the games! I had never won in Fall Guys, so to suddenly be winning so many of these matches was surprising. He won more than me. And in a couple we got 1st and 2nd. If there was a pro editor they could easily go through the hours of footage and make a short well edited concise “Funny moments” video of it.
I was surprised at how few different events there were, as after a few hours, we’d tried all of them, despite the game having 2 years to develop them. That said, I quite like having a just a few so you can get really used to them. Certain ones I liked more than others and was better at. I really liked the ones like Laser Dodge, Honey Comb, Bombard one, and capture the flag (Pico tanks is a great game). The races are good, but those special event ones I especially like. It was annoying how you and your teammate always get put on opposite teams in soccer and capture the flag, guaranteeing that one of you is eliminated. The party feature is cool and good to go up the levels with them, but this separates you. We decided that even if one of us died the other would continue, we rarely were knocked out on the first 16 qualifying round anyway. So only if you died in the 2nd round would it be the choice to wait. Really cool getting the dubs. I think putting them on opposite teams is not a good idea, as if someone is match fixing, then it makes it easy to sabotage, vs if you are on the same team, then they only incentive is to try and win the match, which then isn’t match fixing.
He suggested that they could make it that if one teammate qualifies, the other one gets through also, that could work. With Battlelands the more you had on your team (assuming the were better than average and you were too) the higher the odds you’d win as the margin of error was so low. Individually you’d win about 60-70% when doing well, but in a duo you could get 22 wins in a row. And with a squad unless vsing another good quad, you’d almost never lose, as the role of luck is so reduced when you have 4 people vs 1.
Anyway, a great time playing Stumble Guys, what an awesome game! I actually was good at it vs Fall Guys. There were about 28 less players, I think fall guys was 60. So you’re odds were better. Plus people on PC games seem to be better games on average. I’m still very bad at Age of Empires, the only PC game that I regularly play. Currently the only mobile game I regularly play is Everdale, although I sadly think that that game will be killed soon. I’d love to get back into live streaming games, Stumble Guys, Stick War 3, Color Defence, BTD Battles, Everdale, Clash Quest (final stream), etc.
After many games, and observing some guys jump so in sync, and a corner that many normally got stuck in and the fact that first time playing we could win so many, and seeing a guy repeatedly end up in our lobbies (his name started with C and ended with a capital A and he had different skins each time) we concluded that many of them must be bots, possible even ones that were not called “Stumble Guy”. The incentive for companies to make their be more players than their actually is, is high. I think all the guys Stumble Guy are bots, plus more, but those ones are done as to not make it obvious and hide that it’s almost all bots. On one hand it’s fun to win them, but if you know that it’s mostly just bots, it’s not as fun. Alternatively they could give you lots of bot lobbies at the start to get you hooked and make you feel like you’re good, and as you ranked up, they match you with more players. It did seem despite not getting worse that we lost more latter on. Battlelands had bots but you eventually got used to the names. I remember in 2018 there was a phase of games, including “.io” games on mobile which the games made out that you were vsing other players, but actually all your opponents were just bots. A game “big big baller” I did a video of in 2018 that got 30,000 views https://youtu.be/Y9oDvY6sfYg, I was doing really well in it, I couldn’t believe it. But someone commented “I thought these were real players but when my internet went out they kept moving”, caught red handed.
“endgamerlvl1
3 years ago (edited)
After playing this game for a few hours, I started doubting I was playing against players at all. Seems in the App Store comments I wasn’t the only one. And turns out you really are just playing against bots. Got a call for over 5 mins in the middle of the game, came back and was still in same game and managed to secure the win. So it’s false advertising and unless you really just wanna play bots that are super easy to win against, I’d avoid this. Maybe it used to be different but now it’s a botty bot world
SuperSight
3 years ago
I know what you mean, I thought they were real players as well.
chisoo is jicken
2 years ago
I turned off the wifi and played, they're definitely AI”
Anyway, a fun interactive game. Stumble Guys! 😊 Glad I played it, great fun! Hopefully more good games like it in the future! Credit to Fall Guys for the original idea, but who knows maybe they got the idea or were inspired by it off another game.
Hope you enjoy the footage! Sorry it has the stuff on the left screen, I didn’t realize it was there when I recorded the video.
8:36am NZST
11 Sep 2022
I do like that I just say it how I think it regarding this game and other things in life. I haven’t got a stake in only speaking positively or negatively about this game, I just wrote my experience as it was.
Had a great time playing, a shame that the audio of us playing, I didn’t record.
Would be cool to have a good editor just make a highlights 5-10min of “best and funny moments”.
Link to the game on App Store
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/stumble-guys/id1541153375
I uploaded the video, which took ages, but then I hadn't selected/made the thumbnail, so it sort of just "timed out" and then I have to reupload it so am doing so again starting 12:14am 17 Sep 2022
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