The Raw Deal (1 August 2022) with Michael Ogden and Joe Olson

Following my homage to Bill Russell, who died Sunday at the age of 88, whom I regarded as among my all time American Heroes (along with JFK, RFK, and Mohammed Ali), I introduced Michael Ogden to discuss parts of his new book, A World of Lies, Collusion and Conspiracy--and how to see past it (2022), especially chapters denying the existence of nuclear weapons (If only!) and of evolution, where I had invited an expert dealing with flat Earth--which Michael espouses--to also join but where he despairs of getting thought to the true believers and sent links instead (below). We dealt primarily with the nuke arguments, where Joe laid out some of the more technical scientific points and, in response to his claim no dictators or other tyrants have used them, I pointed out that the Bali bombing appears to have been done with a mini-nuke and that Christoper Busby had discovered that the genetic abnormalities in Fallujah were caused, not by depleted uranium, but by enriched uranium from a new class of tactical nukes the US was deploying in Iraq. We had some discussion of evolution, where I observed that you can download my book, EVOLUTION, MENTALITY, AND MORALITY: Can Science be Reconciled with Religion" (2007), from the internet for free. I recommend his book in spite of our differences over those three chapters. Here are the links related to flat Earth from Jesse Kozlowski: