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Egregores, Mobs and Demons | with Jordan Hall & John Vervaeke
In this conversation with Jordan Hall and John Vervaeke we discuss the meaning and implications of "egregores" as described by the recent two articles on the Symbolic World Blog by Daniel Townhead and Kenneth Florence as well as in the book "Meditations on the Tarot" by Valentin Tomberg. The question of egregores is part of our ongoing discussion about higher beings, collective intelligence, distributed cognition and principalities.
We also discuss our current world, our language as a secular culture, what a solution to the meaning crisis will look like and artificial intelligence.
- The Symbolic World vs Egregores, Part 1 by Daniel Townhead and Kenneth Florence: https://thesymbolicworld.com/articles/the-symbolic-world-vs-egregores-part-1/
- The Symbolic World vs Egregores, Part 2 by Daniel Townhead and Kenneth Florence: https://thesymbolicworld.com/articles/the-symbolic-world-vs-egregores-part-2/
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Timestamps
00:00:02 - Coming up next
00:01:15 - Intro music
00:01:40 - Jordan's terminology
00:03:08 - Background for this discussion
00:04:11 - Where Jordan is coming from
00:05:25 - Where John is coming from
00:06:24 - "Egregore" & bottom-up/top-down
00:08:21 - Again, where Jordan is coming from
00:09:01 - "Headless" beings
00:13:27 - Self-destructive/parasitic structures
00:19:25 - Demons in iconography
00:20:46 - Decomposition at the level of the mob
00:25:26 - The fringe of hyper-beings
00:28:38 - A bureaucracy that's too strong
00:31:58 - The demonic hierarchy
00:37:50 - What is evil?
00:39:22 - Selling your soul
00:42:21 - A virus
00:45:48 - We can see these patterns now
00:49:18 - We’ve lost our language around these beings
00:51:29 - Zombie Christianity
00:54:24 - How long have we been here?
00:58:50 - What can we do?
01:14:26 - Being in relationship with what is real
01:33:56 - Artificial intelligence
01:40:31 - Prayer
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